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Paul  



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:53 am    Post subject: Way OT: 91 Buick No Start Troubleshooting Reply with quote

Anyone have the procedure for checking a no start for a 91 Buick Regal with a 3.1 V6? A wiring diagram?

I have spark while cranking and the fuel pump and relay are good. Car won't start even with the fuel pump relay jumped. However, the fuel pump relay never gets 12V to it's coil. I have checked the fuses under the hood and the ones in the glove box.

Upon turning on the ignition all the blade fuses in the underhood fuse box go from no volts to 12 volts.

I'm thinking the computer is not signaling the pump relay. Any idea of where the computer is?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While in St. Paul, MN, I could go to local library and they had Alldata.com for Free! Check it out. Or, they'll have the Mitchell books.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be here:
Front seating area, passenger side, behind dash, mounted behind glove compartment cavity
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the injectors firing?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone.

I'll try to locate the computer tomorrow evening.

The injectors are under the intake manifold so I can't tell.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you checked your "factory service manual' ?

Ha, Just kidding....
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No that's a good response, I'm just not willing to pay for one for a one off repair.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

White 986 dead? What happened?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rasta Monsta wrote:
White 986 dead? What happened?


Whoa! I missed that! Hope it's nothing too serious...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very dead.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One morning a couple of weeks ago I tried to start the car, it turned about 2 times, fired a couple of plugs, and before I could let go of the key, the starter spun free and the car did not start. Tried again, but the starter spun free.

Hopped in the 924S and went to work.

Got home, popped the engine cover and bumped the key and much to my chagrin, I could see the power steering pulley turning. Not the starter spinning free, but rather NO COMPRESSION. One or more of 5 timing chains must have slipped.

Basically from a financial point of view the car is totaled.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

968rz wrote:
Should be here:
Front seating area, passenger side, behind dash, mounted behind glove compartment cavity


I pulled the passenger side carpet in the footwell and didn't see anything. No obvious panel in the glove box. Guess it will wait until Saturday when I can work in the daylight.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, sorry to hear that Paul.

Time for that electric car conversion maybe?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D Hook wrote:
Man, sorry to hear that Paul.

Time for that electric car conversion maybe?


Not a chance, I'd rather push it over a cliff!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought this on Friday to help drop my white 986's motor. That's Frank trying it out....


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