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jacobscott209

Joined: 11 Dec 2010 Posts: 52 Location: Turlock, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:10 am Post subject: How to take off the thermo time switch |
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Don't really know what it's causing exactly, but when I wiggled the leads my car started running better. I've had a bunch of little electrical problems from corrosion. I'd like to spruce up the leads, but how do I get the thing off? do I have to drop the motor down????? _________________ 77924 |
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Harm

Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 1376 Location: Holland
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:49 am Post subject: Re: How to take off the thermo time switch |
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Looking into taking down the TTS: PITA.
If you have the original wire harness under the hood, its connected pretty solid.
The electrical connections are held in place by a thin but strong wire clip that you'll
have to prey out with a small screwdriver… Not easy, espacially when its hard to
get a glimpse of what you're doing between the back of the head and the firewall.
Try aproaching it from underneath the car: Worked for me several times.
Also for the oil pressure switch that sits next to it.
Not easy, but at least I could see what I was doing. (If the J-pipe heatshields etc. are removed… But you probably don't use those I guess)
Another option would be to take the flange off: Two bolts to get at and replacing a gasket and coolant.
You can practice how to undo these electrical connections on the AAV, CSV and WUR since they
hook up the same way (…if it wasn't replaced by something else between1977 and now).
BTW. Your diagnoses might be in a different area, like; “is the engine block making a good ground?”
—Strap an extra cable from the engine over toward the firewall (near the battery) and see if it changes the engines mood.
HTH
Regards, Harm. _________________ Porsche 924 NA 1982 LY7A/A3A3 _ Greater driving pleasure never harmed anyone. |
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924aussie

Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 1009 Location: Chinchilla Queensland Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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I had to replace this connector but the problem is that it doesnt fit
It fits on all the other items mentioned but not this part and being in a place that you cant see it makes it very difficult.
From your picture, do you still have the part out and if so what is the part number just in case someone at some stage has replace the part with a dodgy one.
Alan _________________ green 924 .. 1980 rego 924PSH
1998 Mopar Neon ... sick
2003 Challenger / Montery 4WD
1995 Hyundai Scoupe ... sold
1998 Nissan Silvia ... sons back from OS he has taken it
BIG BLOODY MOTORHOME 300zx Sold
1980 Fire truck Sold |
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jacobscott209

Joined: 11 Dec 2010 Posts: 52 Location: Turlock, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Ground was one of the first things I tried after reading through the tech section. I took three sets of jumper cables and did engine body battery in every combination possible.
This is basically it though:
I start the car cold:
1500rpm then die 3 times
4th time runs with a low rough idle
I push the gas car dies for about 30 seconds after starting
after 30 seconds it bogs when giving it gas but doesn't die
i rev it a little until it picks up and smooths out
when warm it has a fair amount of power and runs ok but has an irregular miss non cylinder specific.
When checking for spark I noticed that half the time it would look strong and the other half it was hard to see it was so light. But that could all be in my imagination.
Ignition box: cleaned and reseated the plug and ground
bypassed the ignition resistor as one of those what the heck why not moments even though I didn't think for a second it was the problem.
tested the coil
replaced plugs, wires, cap, and rotor
replaced cold start valve and aux air valve with ones from a great running cold start problem free 82 924.
pulled cleaned and tested the egr, it's fine
Checked compression, it's fine
Checked every inch of wire and available plugs and fuses....
..................................................................................... It looks really nice under the hood now at least with everything I've taken off, cleaned, and rewired.
Sorry, I've never OWNED anything that made me feel like ranting so much. _________________ 77924 |
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Harm

Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 1376 Location: Holland
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: How to take off the thermo time switch |
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| 924aussie wrote: | I had to replace this connector but the problem is that it doesnt fit
It fits on all the other items mentioned but not this part and being in a place that you cant see it makes it very difficult.
From your picture, do you still have the part out and if so what is the part number just in case someone at some stage has replace the part with a dodgy one. |
Hi Allen, just the spare parts that I moved from the desk into a drawer.
It all fits and am able to exchange connectors between all four K-Jet components.
Sounds to me that you have an exotic TTS down there at the back of the head.
022 906 231 is on all the connectors, (…some brown ones say “:AMP”)
025 906 231 is a replacement that sits on other harnesses ends,
fits as well but the clip ‘klicks’ in differently …easier.
^> http://www.vw-bus-land.de/tips/stecker/stecker.html#timer
Scroll down to ‘Verschiedene Stecker’, at the pictured brown connector.
Next to it you'll find several suppliers and partnumbers.
Hope That Helps Australia
| jacobscott209 wrote: | | Sorry, I've never OWNED anything that made me feel like ranting so much. |
Oops, …allright; you really should look into the CVS and the TTS connection/wiring. It could cure the cold start problem.
Was it possible to exchange the electronic distributor as well? Since you have the non cylinder specific irregular mis…
Good luck.
Regards, Harm. _________________ Porsche 924 NA 1982 LY7A/A3A3 _ Greater driving pleasure never harmed anyone. |
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924aussie

Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 1009 Location: Chinchilla Queensland Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Cute how the mouse turns into a VW Bus on that site , what is the part number for the TTS you have ?
Alan _________________ green 924 .. 1980 rego 924PSH
1998 Mopar Neon ... sick
2003 Challenger / Montery 4WD
1995 Hyundai Scoupe ... sold
1998 Nissan Silvia ... sons back from OS he has taken it
BIG BLOODY MOTORHOME 300zx Sold
1980 Fire truck Sold |
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Duncan
Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 425 Location: Delft, The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:25 am Post subject: |
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I replaced all the female connectors in the cable harness
to
AAV
TTS
WUR
CVS
with new connectors.
They are called Junior Timer Connectors, and bought them here:
http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/info_20900_1.html
Unfortunately, they only come in black, not in the original blue, but hey.
The owner is a very nice guy and always helpful on the phone.
You have to order separately
-housing
-terminals
-rubber boot
And you need a small crimping tool for unisolated terminals
The new ones really fitted snugly, as opposed to the wiggly old ones. _________________ 1983 NA Alpineweiss since 2001
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Duncan
Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 425 Location: Delft, The Netherlands
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Harm

Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 1376 Location: Holland
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:51 am Post subject: Re: How to take off the thermo time switch |
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Thanks Duncan: Nice links!
Allen, here is what you could be reading on the six sides of the TTS.
My '82 TTS:— 0280130214 — 35°C 8sec — 12V 40W — 043906163A — BOSCH Germany — 5.78
An '81 TTS: — 0280130214 — 35°C 8sec — 12V 40W — 043906163A — BOSCH Germany — 1.83
By now I have four engine harnesses for the CIS and two of them are missing the original TTS connection because some PO cut the wires…
Common problem?
Cheerio. _________________ Porsche 924 NA 1982 LY7A/A3A3 _ Greater driving pleasure never harmed anyone. |
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924aussie

Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 1009 Location: Chinchilla Queensland Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys _________________ green 924 .. 1980 rego 924PSH
1998 Mopar Neon ... sick
2003 Challenger / Montery 4WD
1995 Hyundai Scoupe ... sold
1998 Nissan Silvia ... sons back from OS he has taken it
BIG BLOODY MOTORHOME 300zx Sold
1980 Fire truck Sold |
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