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[Neil924]

Can we please gather the performance numbers for our wonderful cars?
Perhaps catagorize the years with different stats.
0-60mph
1/4 mile
top speed
bhp
torque
weight
And and editorial from a few members with joyfull times in mind.

I have read so much on the net about the numbers that I no longer take them seriously. They range and vary so much, who could believe them?
Perhaps we could put this in the FAQ section.
I'm looking for facts, not "if's". Our cars do not have a top speed of 180mph and I don't think they can outbrake a Pagani Zonda, so let's keep everything on the level.
Thanks.

[Vince Ponz]

I think these are accurate

0-60 stock 77 1/2 US about 11 seconds
0-60 stock 79 Euro turbo 7 seconds
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77.5 924 modified track car
79 931 Euro stock
88 924S SE
87 911 Targa stock

[mrgtturbo]

In comment to your poll questions.

Here is a few examples from my point of view and experience.
(plus I'm bored at the moment).

I don't live in the greatest neighborhood, though it can not compare with the gettos or slums of a true city, it's still on the bottom rung of this towns ladder. Here in Maine were I live, it is considered a city by many small towns. I'm sure the total population is a bit higher than the head count a few years back, but at that time it was around 26,000. OK... so that's not alot, we're talking about Maine here. Yet even though the numbers are small for a city, the mentality of NCY or Boston slums, in small numbers, has found it's way here alike everywhere else. Just like every town, we have our problems. Where I live the troubled teens seem to find their way. Not so much on my block, but they still pass through. They are the kind of punks that alot of people are afraid to talk to in worry of their health or their assets. However I have on more than one occasion given this verbally and mentally challenged punks some talking to. So far whether in a group or not they have always backed down from myself alone. Now what threat do I pose these troublesome teens when I stand alone? Why should they offer me a little respect when just down the street they beat the crap out of someone walking alone to rob them of their $20- so they can smoke a little weed, or get their crack, or whatever these kids do. They see me practically every day out working on my Porsches, and they look at them with awe. Occasionally one will wonder over to ask me questions about them and complement my rides, even though they are not running on the road. A few of them have seen my 931 cruising the streets before however. Just the same.... They have this attitude that these cars are unobtainable in value. Well, I suppose they would be to people wasting their lives on drugs. But as I said, they see me out there practically everyday doing something, in and out of the house as I need be to make a little money, but no set hours. Yes.... they could look at the cars as having no value, thus I have no money so why make me a target, but they target people with no money... I mean what's $20-? Or they may see me as having money as it seems from many others is the popular belief. Why would they ever think this when I'm out in the yard working on my cars with ripped up jeans, greasy shirt and a coffee to drink. (is it just me, or does it seem more poor people drink coffee than well to do people? ), anyway... Through this popular misinterpretation it's safe to assume, through lack of education and research, having Porsche's means that I have money. And my best answer to why they don't want to screw with me is; If they think I have money, but I have no set hours where is my money coming from, who do I know, would it be smart to f*ck with me? I think this is why where other cars down the street have had their tires slashed, windows broken out, for no reason, my cars are never touched. They assume.... PORSCHE means money.

On the flip side;

Where-as you may normally have wait 5 minutes to pull out of a side road into heavy traffic. I've noticed many of times when driving the 931. That waiting time was a whole lot less... and 9 times out of 10 the driver who makes room for you to get out is driving something new or nice. Whether it be an over priced Buick, Benz, or something sporty like a Vet, or fully restored 240Z. The driver normally offers props for your driving a car that's worthy of respect, in most cases they deserve those same props back. I've once passed by, (in opposite directions), a Prowler. Couldn't help but notice his car, and that he was noticing mine. As he drove by he smiled, and gave me a thumbs up with a nod. Now... he could have bought many 931's for what he paid for his shiny fat tired Prowler. I would have to assume he's somewhat educated to be able to afford such a car. Could he know what the true value of this older Porsche is? Maybe, but does it matter? I think it's pretty safe to say he's not offering props to every KIA he sees rolling down the road, nor is he offering that same respect to that flashy yellow grand am with $2000- rims and a huge wing. Right or wrong, I believe people see a Porsche any Porsche as a status symbol. Imagine a 30 year old guy with long hair, often not so cleanly shaved pulling up next to you on the right at the light in a dented up Peugeot, (not a bad car), but setting next to you at the light asking you to put down your window on your girlfriends side. He wants directions. That window would probably stay up until the light was green and away you go. However if this same guy pulls up next to you in a nice Benz, BMW, Porsche, Vet, ect... more times than not the hand of help is given. Is it because it's assumed that since this person has a little class in their taste of car they have an equal class in mentality of life, so why not have a little faith? Don't know, but again I don't care... this just seems to be the way it goes.

I think any make of car that carries a name that often seen as desirable is timeless. Standing as an equal to all other in that league by many of eyes. This may lead to some cars falling prey to wrongful comparisons with cars many years newer, boasting a newer technology. Is this right to do? Is it right for someone to compare a car that's made up of 20+ years of automotive evolution to that one built way back when? I say go ahead... if you must travel back in time all those years to prove this new car to be the thing to have, not only does it make that old car a legend, but where would this new car be today with-out the technology of years ago when it is just now comparable.

Long live the 924 legend!!!
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81' 931

[Neil924]

Hummmm. I haven't quite thought of it that way before. I think a car that stands out will get a look, even if it's a wtf? with a head turn.

[Neil924]

OK guys, don't all rush in and list them at once.
Come on. It's time these numbers were sorted!
Lizard, I thought you would take the lead on this or 924RACR.

[CMXXXI]

The HP and torque specs for "stock" cars is probably going to have to come from published sources. I suspect anyone who has actual dyno results probably has "tweaked" the car and isn't stock anymore - thus skewing the numbers you are trying to amass. Same with weight figures. One day soon I'll measure a 1/4 mile and see what the 0-60 & 1/4 mile numbers come out to and post. I can attest from personal experience that the top end on my 79 Euro 931 is in excess of 225KPH - indicated - (roughly 140mph), so the book specs are true in that regard, and I've no reason to think the others aren't accurate.
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'79 Eurospec 931

[Neil924]

You say "book specs" there are many "books" out there.
Has Porsche put out a book with regards to the 924 specs?
The US and Euro numbers are always mixed up. Weight, hp, ride height, 0-60, they are alway off by a few tenths or a few inches.

[garyj]

i agree with you guys. Just because of the emblem on the car and the word that reads "porsche" on the back makes everyone think of the car as great. Not like its a bad thing for me, being 15 and having freinds who look up to ny car saying "oooh gary you are soo rich you have a porsche", but i bought the hunkajunk for 550$.
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Made up my mind to make a new start,
Going to california with an aching in my heart."
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[Neil924]

Are these right or wrong?

Stock 1977 924:
Power - 93.2 kw / 125 bhp @ 5800 rpm

Torque - 150.5 nm / 111.0 ft lbs @ 3500 rpm

Bore - 86.5 mm / 3.41 in

Stroke - 84.4 mm / 3.32 in

HP/Litre - 63.0 bhp per litre

Top Speed - 200 kph / 124.3 mph

Weight - 2,400 lbs

Length - 4212 mm / 165.8 in

Width - 1684 mm / 66.3 in

Front and rear wheels - 35.6 x 15.2 cm / 14.0 x 6.0 in

Front and rear tires - 185/70HR-14

[CMXXXI]

The factory repair manuals have the following specs for model year before 77 1/2, US market:

Power: 95.4HP @ 5500 RPM
Torque: 109.2 Ft-lbs @ 3000 RPM
Top speed: 115 Mph
0-60mph: 12.5 sec
1/4 mile: 18.7 sec

for MY 77 1/2 and later:

Power: 110HP @ 5750 RPM
Torque: 111.3 Ft-lbs @ 3500 RPM
Top speed: 120 Mph
0-60mph: 11.5 sec
1/4 mile: 17.9 sec

It'd be interesting to see whether the owner's manual matches these figures, and what the auto magazines of the time measured.
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'79 Eurospec 931

[Neil924]

Thank you. Any more?

[Lizard]

most ppl see the name Porsche on it and assume that it is a superfast vehicle, however in my 924 on the PCA events I dont have trouble keeping up to the 911 (esp in the corners) on the straights they pull away slowely but not much (unlike the 928 where I had to take my foot off the gas as they slowed me down)

so the unknowledgable ones ask dumb (imo) questions,
unfortunatly most ppl dont know alot about the 24 and those p-car owners that havent done the research may have heard or read that it was there lowest model and snear at it, however up in my neck of the woods my 924 gets alot of respect and ppl were suprised at how well I kept up with the other p-cars esp seeing as I had another passanger and a spare, and lots of tools
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3 928s,

[Neil924]

[timstar924]

Lizard do you have another engine in your 924 how are you keeping up with 911s ? i thought any 911 is way faster than a na 924 with the110 hp us engine. i think the least hp in the older 911 was like 130hp and i believe they are lighter and more aerodynamic.

[kike924]

My car is an european 1980 N/A (AKA 125hp) and I have the original owner´s manual with this perfomance figures:

924 top speed 126 mph (204 km/h)
0-62 mph (0-100 km/h) 9.6 seconds

924 automatic top speed 120mph (195 km/h)
0-62 (o-100 km/h) 11.4 seconds

924 Turbo - top speed 225km/h
0-62 mph 7.8 seconds
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Euro 924 1980 N/A
Daily driver + week end racer