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john h
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 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:17 am Post subject: OT - How not to start your Christmas Holiday |
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I was stopped at an exit to a supermarket earlier in my Holden Adventra (Pontiac G8 I think is the sedan version in the US) an all wheel drive Holden Commodore and a woman in a BMW 325 stopped about 100 metres away as she was feeling faint.
And she did faint and her foot slipped off the brake onto the throttle and the car took off, I heard an engine screaming, looked to my right just in time to see the Beama about 10 metres away and had enough time to think this is going to hurt then the Beama hit me.
It hit the right front wheel and pushed me 5 metres up the road and turned me 90 degrees.
The Adventra was still sort of driveable even though the right wheel was at 45 degree negative camber and a broken front right drive shaft. I drove it onto the flat bed tow truck that took it away. BMW was not so lucky.
Unfortuantely both vehicles are a total loss - I was pretty luck as I opened the door and proceeded to run to the BMW to see if the driver was OK. I had no injuries from the accident, only injury was a slight nick to a finger when we were clearing the glass and other crap from the road. Just what I needed just before the Christmas holidays
Now I'm in the market for a new family wagon - not the best the time to buy either
Adventra after the accident
BMW after the accident
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JasonO
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| HHmmmm Not good,Take it easy for christmas though |
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Kens_74_911s
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:21 pm Post subject: c |
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Great to hear you were all okay!! Breaking up a day this way is never fun. looks like the crush zones did as they should, not make a pretty picture, but absorb the impact.
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Muz924
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Glad that your OK,
Did your Adventura do all that damage to the BMW?
It looks like its gone under a tray truck!
Will you be looking for another Adventura? not many sold over here in Oz.
We have a Ford Territory AWD as our family car, I can highly recommend them, friends have the turbo model and it has amazing performance.
Cheers & Merry Xmas,
Santo
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morghen
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Good to hear you're ok. Even small accidents can seriously harm you or even kill you if you're unlucky.
I dont see why your car is totaled....replace fender, headlight, probably driveshaft and suspension arm and its ok.
i think with a couple of K repairs you still have your old car back.
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john h
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| morghen wrote: | Good to hear you're ok. Even small accidents can seriously harm you or even kill you if you're unlucky.
I dont see why your car is totaled....replace fender, headlight, probably driveshaft and suspension arm and its ok.
i think with a couple of K repairs you still have your old car back. |
my thoughts as well but when I sat down with the panelbeater (repairer who is good friend of mine) we looked at the damage and what was needed was - complete right hand suspension, driveshaft. inner right fender, front radiator panels, hood (bonnet for us inNZ and Aussie), left fender, engine removal so they can straighten the chassis rail. Also the Adventra's have a massive steel frame which supports the engine and front diff etc this moved causing the chassis rails to bend. In addition the ABS unit was mounted on just behind the right hand suspension strut and the right front inner guard moved enough for the ABS unit to be dislodged from it's mounts and break some of the hydralic connections All up repair costs were more than 80% of the current value of the car.
As for a replacement we have purchased a 2 year old Subaru Forrester in the interim while we decide what to get as long term replacement
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J1NX3D
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Wow John, glad you're ok. Any idea why the woman fainted? did her airbags deploy? Did yours?
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Rotten luck, but as above glad you were ok. I suffered a similar fate 1 week before Christmas whilst stopped in traffic - rear ended at low speed - total repair cost to my BMW 3series coupe (E46) - £3800!! I thought it only needed a bumper and rear light!!
Needless to say they have written it off so I'm now waiting for the cash (£2500) after spending my only time off in 6 months traveling around looking for a replacement - sucks!!!
All the best, J
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john h
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| J1NX3D wrote: | | Wow John, glad you're ok. Any idea why the woman fainted? did her airbags deploy? Did yours? |
All I got out of the cops was she had fallen over at a coffee shop just before the accident and when she fell she broke her wrist and a finger but the shock of falling caused her not to feel the broken wrist. She then tried to drive back home and then felt faint and stopped and fainted from the pain and she then smacked my car.
I heard a slightly different story from the another witness at the scene who helped her out before the ambulance and cops turned up (and also by the guy I brought my Subbie from as he works with her husband) and she actually fainted at the coffee shop thus causing the injury. But it appears she was coached by someone to distort the truth abit before talking to the cops once she was at hospital.
Her airbags went off but mine didn't. According to Holden after I inquired as it was a "glancing " blow on the front corner hence neither the airbag in the steering wheel or side curtain ones didn't go off. As the impact was at the front rather than the side. Seems strange to me but the Holden technical dude when he saw the photo of the Adventra reckoned while the impact was severe enough to write the car off it wasn't hard enough to set off the airbags
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morghen
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| john h wrote: |
All I got out of the cops was she had fallen over at a coffee shop just before the accident and when she fell she broke her wrist and a finger but the shock of falling caused her not to feel the broken wrist. She then tried to drive back home and then felt faint and stopped and fainted from the pain and she then smacked my car.
I heard a slightly different story from the another witness at the scene who helped her out before the ambulance and cops turned up (and also by the guy I brought my Subbie from as he works with her husband) and she actually fainted at the coffee shop thus causing the injury. But it appears she was coached by someone to distort the truth abit before talking to the cops once she was at hospital. |
That is such an impressive amount of bullshit....pfff..shock from falling made her not feel her broken wrist??...how shocked can you be from falling from your own feet in a coffe shop?
Wtf was she doing driving after fainting?? She should get jail time for that. Its the next "best" thing to premeditated murder.
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J1NX3D
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hmm those could easily be injuries from a drivers airbag
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john h
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Yeah I was a bit pissed off with the cops response.
My brother was a cop and he reckoned that in his experience the woman should have been charged with a few offences, but there is not much I can do about it.
As I've lost my no claims bonus and also my excess on my insurance I've lodged a claim against the woman to recover my excess and the additional premium I'm having to pay. The court case (if it goes that far) won't cost me anything (as a lawyer friend is doing it for nix) but it will cost her a few dollars to respond and defend
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