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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:32 am Post subject: OT: Um. . .HOLY F*&#%@ S%*&! |
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DROOLZ _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:02 am Post subject: |
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wow....everything else in the automotion news just turned to shit when i've seen this thing !
simply wow ! i wonder the costs tho.. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
https://www.the924.com |
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JayZzzz4

Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 544 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:15 am Post subject: |
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Crazy mirrors on that, they should be cameras for a LCD screen inside. _________________ White 1987 Porsche 924S manual |
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fiat22turbo

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Yes, but can it be driven like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnKARl8HJjY  _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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Slam
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Wainwright, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Delicious. Saw pics this morning and was just blown away. Porsche is back on top! Yay! _________________ '84 944 - kid blew motor
'83 944 - resting comfortably. For 12 years
'87 944 - sideswiped by trucker
'80 924 - gone
'78 924 - gone
'77 924 - rusting comfortably |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Nein37

Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 513 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:37 am Post subject: |
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I don't really like it. I was hoping they would unveil a new 4 cylinder model... a modernized 944 would have been much more interesting to me. This looks too much like ALL the other modern "supercars".
Not to mention that the obsession with more and more hp has just gotten REALLY long in the tooth. We are way beyond the point of usable and safe power outputs, it'd be nice to pull down the huge expectations we have of MORE, MOR, MORE and do more with less again. With gas prices where they are, and fears of global climate change becoming a reality, even car companies like Porsche ought to be downsizing engines and cars not making them bigger. Wow... its soooo light... only 3280lbs.  _________________ 1981 931 CGT replica, OEM CGT intercooler, .8 BAR WG spring, GTS Headlights, Innovative Wide band A/F, A/C delete, 16" Fuchs, Weltmeister 200lb lowering springs, Bilstein HDs front, Koni Sport rears. |
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rat

Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 92 Location: Colchester, Essex, UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:05 am Post subject: |
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I do tend to agree. The cars that really interest me are the classics: sprite, TR4/6 Spitfire. The only newer cars that even slightly interest me are the suzuki cappuchino, and the lotus elise.
As you can see, apart from the TR6, I'm a fan of light weight chuckability over pure grunt.
The porsche was just a more practical car I could still enjoy chucking through some corners.
Then again, a little extra torque never hurts  |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| Nein37 wrote: | | We are way beyond the point of usable and safe power outputs, it'd be nice to pull down the huge expectations we have of MORE, MOR, MORE and do more with less again. |
| rat wrote: | | I do tend to agree... I'm a fan of light weight chuckability over pure grunt. |
Um, Boxster? Cayman?
| Nein37 wrote: | | Wow... its soooo light... only 3280lbs. |
A Boxster is about 3200lbs. A Cayman a couple of hundred pounds lighter than that. OK, that's 20 - 25% heavier than a toofah. But given the improved levels of performance, luxury and safety, I reckon it's not too bad.
Lotus builds their Elise, if you're after a go-kart with a motorcycle engine...  _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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fiat22turbo

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:31 am Post subject: |
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There's always 356 replicas and Lotus Seven clones (Locost, Westfield, Caterham, etc). Plus various other Kit manufacturers (Ginetta, Factory Five, etc)
somewhere in there is the lightweight sportscar you want. Otherwise, thanks to the safety nonsense that have to have in the cars these days, the lightweight car is becoming a thing of the past, so to counteract that weight, more power is needed (which also a great selling point for the uninformed consumer) _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Anyone hear a price, it's got to be north of $500,000? _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Show me another 500 hp V8 sports car with 4WD that weighs less. Let alone the weight of a liquid cooled battery and 2 electric motors making 218 hp. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| fiat22turbo wrote: | | to counteract that weight, more power is needed (which also a great selling point for the uninformed consumer) |
The base Boxster has a bit more than two times the power of a 924, with fuel consumption all but equal to a 924 Turbo. It'll be doing about 100mph while the toofah is struggling to hit sixty. And it'll go about fifty mph faster. And I haven't even started on the Cayman yet...
In the words of Diamond Joe Quimby, "You're a bunch of fickle mush-heads!"  _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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fiat22turbo

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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and your point is? Twice the power and better efficiency should be a given after so many years. Lets face it, the 924 used an archaic fuel injection system and an archaic engine design. At the time it was cheap and available.
Just look at what Honda and Toyota are able to get from smaller motors these days. The addition of variable intake systems, variable valve lift and/or variable cam timing systems helps broaden the power curve which is always a good thing and allows for more finite control of the combustion events, which is also important for emissions and/or efficiency.
I'm happy with older cars as there is a lot of simplicity that makes working on them almost zen like. However, I also understand that they have their limitations and that advancements in technology means that newer cars will almost always have advantages. _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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daniel
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Posts: 686 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | sprite,
As you can see, apart from the TR6, I'm a fan of light weight chuckability over pure grunt. |
All I can say is chassis flex! _________________ Over the top of skyline, total brake failure.... hit the wall at over 200 kp/h at the dipper, so anyone who has to brake for the esses is a pussy.
1977.5 Race Car, CAMS Group S Spec
1989 944 Cabriolet |
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