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Slam
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Wainwright, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Beating it onto the torque tube will work. Whatever gets it out of the way.
You can use a floor jack. The tranny balances just behind the diff - to the rear of the tranny mounts, and all you have to do is stop it tilting and falling off the jack. I set up wood blocks to catch it just in case.
Don't saw a hole in your car. _________________ '84 944 - kid blew motor
'83 944 - resting comfortably. For 12 years
'87 944 - sideswiped by trucker
'80 924 - gone
'78 924 - gone
'77 924 - rusting comfortably |
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:24 am Post subject: |
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hey dont even think of cutting that car !!
put the tranny back up...in its normal position...even bolt it back on. Then use some sort of fork like Dan said and force the coupler further back....try and try and try...it was designed to be unmounted this way so it must be possible. I'll do the same job soon as i have to replace a syncro in my gearbox. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Safest way is with a trans jack, which you might be able to rent (you can around here). I've done it multiple times without one using a piece of plywood (3/4" would be good) on top of a standard floor jack, along with an extra jack stand or two to help support it in a few strategic places. For example, put a jack stand up underneath the end of the trans where it attaches to the torque tube, then lower the heavy end with your jack. Eventually, you'll need to get the jack out from underneath the trans, and this can be a bit precarious, but I have yet to have one land on me or smash a finger or anything. Make sure you have plenty of uncluttered space around and behind you so you can maneuver quickly out of the way if necessary. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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timstar92404

Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: richmond BC
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:36 am Post subject: |
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well I looked all over and I can't find a trans jack.
I'm buying a 1700 pound utility jack, made for lifting motorcycles / atvs.
looks like it should work because it has two long arms that can hold the trans.
the trans doesn't look that heavy but obviously I don't wan ti falling on me.
are you guys sure that the trans will clear if I push the coupler towards the torque tube? once I push it towards the torque tube I might not be able to push it back because the flange that i use to push on would be too far back.
teh trans can only be slid back like half an inch.
also I know my trans mount is different. I have a late 944 with one tran mount on top. Clarks garage says to drop the trans with the crossmember but it looks easier to disconnect the mount because to drop the crossmember I have to remove my fuel filter and fuel lines look like they might get damaged if I'm not careful so I''d rather drop it by the mount. _________________ 78 924 sold.
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timstar92404

Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: richmond BC
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:38 am Post subject: |
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also not sure if my shifter tube will slide out easily once I move the trans back. if not that'll be another problem. _________________ 78 924 sold.
85.5 944 |
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Slam
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Wainwright, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: |
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A little experimentation will give you your answers faster than logging on here.
The tube will take care of itself when you lower the tranny. Mine did. _________________ '84 944 - kid blew motor
'83 944 - resting comfortably. For 12 years
'87 944 - sideswiped by trucker
'80 924 - gone
'78 924 - gone
'77 924 - rusting comfortably |
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PORSCHEV

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1901 Location: Cedar Lake Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:37 am Post subject: |
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I bet Timstar was a challenge to potty train.  _________________ 1976 924
5 lug conversion, 17'C2 wheels,custom body work,327 vette engine.
1978-#53 "D" track racer.
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tuurbo

Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 1446 Location: East Windsor, New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I bet Timstar was a challenge to potty train. |
Heh heh.  _________________ 1980 924 turbo, MSD, Meth. Inj, otherwise stock. |
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DOCO

Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Posts: 1111 Location: Keswick Ontario Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: |
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hey at least hes listinin to you guys this time!!!go get er tim!!!! _________________ Doco "where am i going and why am i in this handbasket"author unknown
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| PORSCHEV wrote: | I bet Timstar was a challenge to potty train.  |
There you go, making assumptions again. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Tim has come a long way in a short time, it seems like yesterday that it took a hundred posts to get his car up on jack stands. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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timstar924
Joined: 04 Jul 2004 Posts: 284
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: |
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lol.
anyways the trans now won't clear that freakin coupler. I slid it onto the tq tube side as it wouldn't go on the trans side. no the trans is fully disconnected and strapped onto a atv jack and when I lower it it won't come out of the coupler as it's still a couple of cm in there fk!
also seems like I was wrong the tq tube is infact stripped or the teeth are rounded off.
now i definately don't have the time to drop the rear suspension to take the tq tube out. I'm either going to have to pay a shop to take the tq tube out for me and put a new one in or I'll have to do a short cut.
now if I cut the rear tire area off would the tq tube slide out without dropping the rear crossmember? |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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The rear suspension is easily removed. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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fiat22turbo

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:46 am Post subject: |
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So, basically you've never done this before, read documentation written by someone who has done this before and you think you can skip their steps? Even better you're talking about cutting up your trunk instead of removing a few clamps, hoses and two bolts? C'mon, stop screwing around. You're making great progress, just follow the instructions and get it done.
You need to remove the Transaxle support crossmember and fuel lines. Fuel lines and filters are meant to be replaced and are cheap insurance, so don't worry about them.
Once you get the transaxle out, use a very small file and very carefully clean up the splines on the TT, the transaxle and the new coupler. Go slowly and check the fit of the coupler on the pieces. You don't want it too loose. A little lubricant will help them slide together. Be careful as too much can attract dirt and cause premature wear.
Finally, pictures help when trying to troubleshoot remotely. _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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timstar924
Joined: 04 Jul 2004 Posts: 284
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:48 am Post subject: |
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well maybe "easily" but I don't have another 20 hours to work on it.
a porsche shop quoted me at 14 hours to replace the torque tube so if it takes them 14 hours it'll take me a 100 hours.
also if you drop the rear suspension how would you support the car on jackstands?
my rear end is uspported by the rear crossmember tube ends. |
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