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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:16 pm    Post subject: Thermo time switch No: 043906163A Reply with quote

Does anyone know if the Thermo time switch No: 043906163A has a replacement number ?

It is a superseded part from porsche and Bosch


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: Thermo time switch No: 043906163A Reply with quote

Blimey, superseeded since 03/2007?
Manufacturers should realy look into this;
Loads of cars are depending on this TTS

TTS Bosch 0280130214:
Code:
OE Number      11911110120
OEManufacturer   ALFA ROMEO

OE Number      13621362599
OEManufacturer   BMW

OE Number      4393600
OEManufacturer   FIAT

OE Number      92860510100
OEManufacturer   PORSCHE

OE Number      7700682046
OEManufacturer   RENAULT

OE Number      8357865
OEManufacturer   Saab

OE Number      043906163A
OEManufacturer   VOLKSWAGEN

Source: http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=283487
I do not know of a direct replacement number.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah yikes - at roughly $85-$170US new, I can see leaving it alone and resorting to the cold/hot start manual switch when the time comes.
Of course the old hold-the-pedal-to-the-floor-while-starting trick works well too..
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Followed a link from another recent posting like the above for 0 280 130 214


http://ecat-online.bosch.de/toc/frame1.html and I am now trying to find out if the "replacement" is available still. 0 280 130 214

I followed some other obscure link and it may also be a ford part ... yes I know I just used the F word on the forum. FD-3315
FD-3315 043906163A Switch, Temperature

http://www.simply-parts.com/S-Pcat0805/Simply-Parts%20Ford%20catalogue%20081127.pdf

On some obscure other forum posting I also noticed mention of a failure in the TTS that caused the wires attaced to it to melt, this was my original problem the green wire with white trace melted.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pelican says that they can get it from the dealer, but it is $97 US...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a TTS from EBS Racing in June 2009...

928 605 101 00 thermo-time switch 928-86/912E/924/T 1 94.50
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its Alive

I have been chasing a NEW Thermo Time Switch for the 924 but havent had any luck as they are not made by Bosch anymore , there was a replacement but they also are not made anymore or avaiable in Australia. So today Saturday the 24th January I connected the green / white wire to earth therefore bypassing the Thermo Time Switch and It fired straight away and ran. The old green and white wire was the one that originally melted when the TTS failed and I then had a brand new wiring harness made.

Before that it would only crank over and over and over but not fire.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure but connecting the two wires that run to the thermo time switch may run your Cold Start Valve (fuel injection into the manifold) all the time. It is only meant to fire for a period of seconds.

Someone jump in who recalls more detail.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Thermo time switch No: 043906163A Reply with quote

Glad to hear you're making progress Alan


IIRC when hooked up properly it will only fire when the key is in STARTING position,

(duration depending on a cold or warm engine by a thermo contact inside the TTS)

and have no current (off) when the key returns in the ON position when you get the engine running.


You could choose to place a switch between the Gn/Wt and Rd/Wt wires so you'd be able to apply cold start manually when necessary.
Seems to work for other members up here.
Cheerio, Harm.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevekat wrote:
I am not sure but connecting the two wires that run to the thermo time switch may run your Cold Start Valve (fuel injection into the manifold) all the time. It is only meant to fire for a period of seconds.

Someone jump in who recalls more detail.


I didnt run it for long, but I will see what happens when I disable the earth to the green white wire. If it does what Harm suggested then I may hook up a switch until I can track down a replacement.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Thermo time switch No: 043906163A Reply with quote

Harm wrote:
Glad to hear you're making progress Alan


IIRC when hooked up properly it will only fire when the key is in STARTING position,

(duration depending on a cold or warm engine by a thermo contact inside the TTS)

and have no current (off) when the key returns in the ON position when you get the engine running.


Check out 9XX Girl!'s solution. It's pretty elegant in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get them while there hot!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alfa-Romeo-GTV6-Bosch-Temperature-Switch-0280130214-/261415954654?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3cdd9ae8de

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThomasJoseph315 wrote:
Get them while there hot!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alfa-Romeo-GTV6-Bosch-Temperature-Switch-0280130214-/261415954654?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3cdd9ae8de



Yep, hurry before you run out of "time".
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Thermo time switch No: 043906163A Reply with quote

Temperature Time Switch part number:
— Porsche # 928 605 101 0
— BOSCH # 028 013 021 4
— VW-Audi # 043 906 163 A

https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/thermozeitschalter.html

If VW-Classic-Parts list them they are available again.
HTH

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

0 280 130 214 has been superseded to F 026 T03 100 by Bosch, and that part is available from them, MSRP $246.20. My wholesaler has 16 in stock at the moment.
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