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rockola  



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:59 am    Post subject: 924 timing belt installation Reply with quote

Had to take out the thermostat housing on my 924, put everything back together, now car won't start because timing belt was not put back correctly

From the Haynes manual, page 31: "..., turn the engine via the center bolt of the oil pump so that the notch on the V-belt pulley aligns with the pointer on the oil pump." As far as I can tell there is no notch on the V-belt pulley, what's it supposed to look like?

"Align the pointer on the camshaft cover with the dot on the timing belt pulley." There are two red dots and a white dot on the timing belt pulley, it's the white one, right? Without the timing belt on I get only 4 different positions on the cam, if I try to leave it in between it slips to one of these 4 as soon as I touch it with something (like the belt). Is there a trick to get the dot to align?
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Paul  



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never worked on a 84 NA (not availalbe in the US), but assuming it is the Audi 2 liter:





You can also use the timing marks below the ignition coil (there's a window in the bell housing).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just fought with this very thing for two days, the notch is on the inner v-belt pully on the oil pump. On my '79 the notch was covered by a bunch of road grime, which caused me to use a paint mark on the outer pulley. low and behold I was 180 degrees out of time. The notch on my car is lined up with the 3rd hole on the outer pulley. I think those are the timing marks. Good luck as the notch is very small.
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CMXXXI  



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a firm believer in using the flywheel mark instead of the notch in the mainshaft pulley. Provided your flywheel is installed correctly (there have been reports on the Board of improperly installed flywheels), it will be way more accurate than the notch on the pulley. As far as getting the belt on without moving the camshaft, you may find it useful to "back off" the camshaft rotation and put the belt on with some slack. Once on the pulleys, rotate it to take up the slack and see if it aligns. If not, "back it off" again, move by one tooth and try again until everything aligns when things are taught. Then tighten to spec using the tensioner pulley.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flashback.

1982Porsche924 wrote:
The best way to do it is while the belt is still on, line up the cam gear with the marker on the valve cover. make sure to line it up with the indentation on the back, and not the front (completely different), then, check the window in your bellhousing to see if the flywheel is lined up with the 0 degree marker. If not, when you take off your timing belt, line up the flywheel (0 degree indicator) with the indentaion in the window. After that, put your belt on, tension it so that it flexes just barely 90 degrees when you twist with two fingers. then, torque the tensioning pulley the proper amount.

924s are non interference engines, so if you mess up timing, the valves wont hit the pistons. unless you have a 924S, you have nothing to worry about.
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rockola  



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips everybody, I finally figured out the correct orientation. Alas, the car isn't running yet. I tried to start it, and noticed that the battery must have discharged. The starter would turn only slowly and then seize. It's now charging, I'll try again in a short while, but... I tried to turn the engine from the oil pump bolt, and noticed that it turns very unevenly; some parts of the rotation turn very easily, but there are places where it requires a lot more force. So, it's no wonder the starter seized with low charge, there simply wasn't enough power in the battery to get over these sticking places. I'm almost afraid to ask if anyone has an idea what's wrong...
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Lizard  



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for a 4 banger that is normal to have a few freer spots, I know mine does, and it runs great
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reassuring words, did I mention this is the first car I ever bought, at the ripe age of 34, last April? So bear with me and my silly questions...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont worry about it, I had my first car at 16 given to me and I bought my first p-car at the age of 17, and now have my 928 at the age of 19
and I started out with some pretty stupid questions too
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

About to get my 4th porsche and I'm still 16
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