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924-UK

Joined: 14 Nov 2023 Posts: 25 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 2:03 am Post subject: Poor starting 1984 924 2.0 NA |
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Still having a few issues starting from cold. She fires up straight away and revs, but then dies after about 10-20 seconds even when trying to modulate the throttle. It does this until there is a bit of heat in the engine and then runs OK.
I have tested all elements as per Haynes (CSV, AAV, WUR & TTS). The only issue I couldn't figure out was the supply to the AAV - my test lamp flashes when cranking but I figured this should be a constant supply to close the valve after a few minutes? Haynes isn't too clear on this.
Any help appreciated. _________________ '84 924 2.0 NA |
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Raize
Joined: 18 Sep 2013 Posts: 337 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 2:40 am Post subject: |
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If it's revving just for a moment after starting (using the extra Cold Start Valve fuel) then struggling for the next 10-20 seconds before dying, then the mixture is too lean for some reason.
AAV wouldn't effect that (all intake air is metered) so it has to be a WUR issue or sticky plunger in the fuel distributor.
My 924 was doing the same and for some reason it runs properly with my K-Jet tester installed, but has the lean-start issue if I connect the WUR line as it should be connected. Hard to diagnose but it could be either somehow air bubbles in the WUR line are effecting the operation, or the small tube has collapsed internally and is restricting flow. |
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924-UK

Joined: 14 Nov 2023 Posts: 25 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Raize wrote: | If it's revving just for a moment after starting (using the extra Cold Start Valve fuel) then struggling for the next 10-20 seconds before dying, then the mixture is too lean for some reason.
AAV wouldn't effect that (all intake air is metered) so it has to be a WUR issue or sticky plunger in the fuel distributor.
My 924 was doing the same and for some reason it runs properly with my K-Jet tester installed, but has the lean-start issue if I connect the WUR line as it should be connected. Hard to diagnose but it could be either somehow air bubbles in the WUR line are effecting the operation, or the small tube has collapsed internally and is restricting flow. |
Thanks, I did tweak the mixture as it was running so rich fuel ended up in the oil! I'll revisit this, I wanted to get it set better than it was to drive it to my local k-jetronic expert who can set the mixture correctly.
Maybe I should try and bypass the WUR (although I did rebuild it a few Months ago). Can you explain what you did to bypass it. _________________ '84 924 2.0 NA |
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924-UK

Joined: 14 Nov 2023 Posts: 25 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Update ... it's taken me nearly a year to get to the bottom of this, but a previous owner had rebuilt the WUR and installed the heating element upside down! No wonder it was running so bad at startup.
So it starts on the button now, with no throttle.
As an added bonus, my hot start issues have also gone. _________________ '84 924 2.0 NA |
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fiskolja
Joined: 08 Aug 2024 Posts: 18 Location: Malmö, Sweden
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Nice one! _________________ 924 NA 1977 |
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coup85

Joined: 12 Aug 2024 Posts: 54 Location: Madrid
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 2:40 am Post subject: |
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924-UK wrote: | Update ... it's taken me nearly a year to get to the bottom of this, but a previous owner had rebuilt the WUR and installed the heating element upside down! No wonder it was running so bad at startup.
So it starts on the button now, with no throttle.
As an added bonus, my hot start issues have also gone. |
When you say the heating element, are you referring to the green resistance? _________________ 924 - 79' |
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Beartooth
Joined: 05 Apr 2022 Posts: 280 Location: Roberts, MT
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 3:49 am Post subject: |
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I'm guessing it was the whole arm? So the WUR wouldn't work right, or maybe wouldn't do anything at all: it'd make sense because it would start off the cold start valve, then want to die because of not enough cold enrichment. I can't remember if just the heating element could be removed and turned around, but if so, I'm not sure just that would make a big difference. It's probably a place where a fuel pressure gauge would be helpful: anything wonky with the WUR is going to show up in the control pressure. Nice little Easter egg from the previous owner, regardless. _________________ 1980 931 diamond in the rough |
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