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924-76

Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 1489 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 10:40 pm Post subject: 924 Turbo and GTS Intake question |
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I'm trying to get everything together to convert my 931 to the GTS intake manifold.
On the 931 intake, there is 2 post throttle body air connection, 1 by at fire wall next to the 5th injector and 1 under runner #1 that goes to the turbo recirculation valve.
On the GTS intake there is only one 1 post throttle body air connection, under runner #1. See pics here:http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=42969
Can those 2 connections be combined by a Y connector to a single intake location (under runner #1)?
Thank you _________________ 1976 924 N/A ROW SOLD
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1981 931 Part car RIP |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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On the S2 intake manifold, the port by the cold start valve is used to provide MAP to the DITC. (It is also a convenient place to tee off of for other MAP reference, such as boost gauge and progressive water-meth injection controller).
I can't think of any reason that you shouldn't be able to tee off of the port on the bottom of the runner. The MAP had better be equal across all runners, otherwise you have other problems! _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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924-76

Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 1489 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Dan, you are raising a good point about being equal across all runners.
If I'm not mistaking, the port by the cold start valve is the entry for the auxiliary air regulator.??? Going off memory, correct me if I'm wrong.
Would this be problematic if it feeds on 1 runner? _________________ 1976 924 N/A ROW SOLD
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1981 931 Part car RIP |
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924-76

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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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More pictures
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924-76

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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Still try to figure out what the small threaded port next to the cold start valve is for? _________________ 1976 924 N/A ROW SOLD
1980 931S
1981 931 Part car RIP |
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Carrera RSR

Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Posts: 2312 Location: Somerset, UK
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| 924-76 wrote: | | Still try to figure out what the small threaded port next to the cold start valve is for? |
Probably a threaded barb for Boost take off for DITC or more likely the wastegate _________________ 1980 931 - forged pistons, Piper cam, K27/26 3257 6.10 hybrid turbo, 951 FMIC, custom intake, Mittelmotor dizzy & cam pulley, H&S exhaust, GAZ Gold, Fuch'ed, Quaife
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924-76

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Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| Carrera RSR wrote: | | Probably a threaded barb for Boost take off for DITC or more likely the wastegate |
I believe boost signal needs to be per-throttle body. _________________ 1976 924 N/A ROW SOLD
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Carrera RSR

Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Posts: 2312 Location: Somerset, UK
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| 924-76 wrote: | | Carrera RSR wrote: | | Probably a threaded barb for Boost take off for DITC or more likely the wastegate |
I believe boost signal needs to be per-throttle body. |
Wastegate is pre TB. Ditc is post for turbos and CGT. Haven't studied the GTS too closely. _________________ 1980 931 - forged pistons, Piper cam, K27/26 3257 6.10 hybrid turbo, 951 FMIC, custom intake, Mittelmotor dizzy & cam pulley, H&S exhaust, GAZ Gold, Fuch'ed, Quaife
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924-76

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Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| Carrera RSR wrote: | | Wastegate is pre TB. Ditc is post for turbos and CGT. Haven't studied the GTS too closely. |
Thanks _________________ 1976 924 N/A ROW SOLD
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RC

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 2637 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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So where is the vac take off for the brake booster? _________________ World`s quickest 924 2L slushbox
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924-76

Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 1489 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 6:57 am Post subject: |
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I might modify the small threaded port next to the cold start valve to be similar to the turbo intake air port. This way, everything would connect the same way as the turbo intake.
I'm hesitant to modify it, but it would ease the installation.
Suggestion anyone _________________ 1976 924 N/A ROW SOLD
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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make an adapter...don't modify the part _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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924-76

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Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| morghen wrote: | | make an adapter...don't modify the part |
I agree with you, but I'm afraid the port will be too small.
I need to find out what exactly connect through that port on the turbo intake. _________________ 1976 924 N/A ROW SOLD
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1981 931 Part car RIP |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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As I posted earlier, that small port is for the MAP reference line that goes to the DITC. You can use it also for MAP reference to boost gauge. Use the large port on the bottom of runner one to create a vacuum manifold for everything else, including brake booster. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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924-76

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Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Dan
I was worry about feeding the AAR to only 1 runner, but re-thinking about it, vacuum should balance it-self trough out the runners. _________________ 1976 924 N/A ROW SOLD
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1981 931 Part car RIP |
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