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oharris
Joined: 06 Oct 2014 Posts: 37 Location: Peyton, CO
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 11:27 pm Post subject: LSD swap potential |
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I know the G31 is actually an Audi trans. Are there any Audi's that came with a compatible Limited slip diff that could be swapped in? _________________ '80 931 |
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Mike9311

Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 1798 Location: Chicago-ish
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 1:26 am Post subject: Re: LSD swap potential |
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| oharris wrote: | | I know the G31 is actually an Audi trans. Are there any Audi's that came with a compatible Limited slip diff that could be swapped in? |
G31 is Porsche...The S2 has an Audi. You will need to figure out which one you have for sure
This is the only one I know of but I have not done it or looked deeper. Ideola likely knows the most about all this. Dan has been chasing the LSD for a while
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=23820 _________________ 1980 931 since 1989
1981 Ideola 931 Club Sport
1982 931 Entwicklungsfahrzeug
1979 924 NA ohne 650 mit 471
1982 931 Red Resurrection - 951 IC
1982 931 parts car / resurrection?
1980 924 NA (R&D lightweight)
1982 931 wana-be GTR race car
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 1:28 am Post subject: |
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G31 is not the same like 016(Audi box) _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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Power Tryp

Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 435 Location: Calgary, Alberta
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oharris
Joined: 06 Oct 2014 Posts: 37 Location: Peyton, CO
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Mine is an S1. So I guess it's its own beast and I'd have to find another Porsche? No wonder Ideola is always looking for those. _________________ '80 931 |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 5:31 am Post subject: |
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G31 was not built by Audi (pretty sure it was manufactured for Porsche by Getrag, hence the "G"), nearly the same as the 915 boxes, but with some 931 peculiarities that are well-documented in the above-linked tech guide from Pete Tinucci.
915 had a coarse- and fine-splined diff, I don't remember the different spline counts offhand, should be in that article. I think the G31 uses the fine spline setup (please confirm), so if you look for a 915 swap-in solution, you need to make sure you get the right spline setup.
I have managed to locate five LSD units, but they are all spoken for (Club Sport, 941, DProd tribute, 937, and GTR tribute). Apparently, they are more common here in the states, even though the G31 was only in US cars in 1980, whereas it was in the ALL of the ROW cars.
The best chance to find a G31+LSD is to search for 1980 cars with five-lug + Gullideckel rims. Every LSD I found was on a car so-equipped, but not every car with 5-lug Gullies has LSD. Buying a 915 LSD is going to cost you 911 dollars (shhhhh, don't tell the 915 guys that the G31 LSD fits in their cars!).
Good luck! _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Rasta Monsta

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Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Have you spent much time driving the car yet? Fwiw, my hot rodded 931 has zero wheelspin/traction issues, including on the track. Not sure why...my 924s race car really needs LSD. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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v8carreragts

Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 665 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 11:48 am Post subject: |
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The G31 uses the late type 915/930 fine spline which means you could swap in 930 drive flanges and use the big CV's. You can also buy stub shafts for 930 size CV's. _________________ 84 944--924 Carrera GTS clone w/520HP Chevy 302 V8--RUNNING!
2015 AUDI Q7
2013 Dodge Charger R/T AWD HEMI
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Mike9311

Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 1798 Location: Chicago-ish
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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...and add this to my LSD link file  _________________ 1980 931 since 1989
1981 Ideola 931 Club Sport
1982 931 Entwicklungsfahrzeug
1979 924 NA ohne 650 mit 471
1982 931 Red Resurrection - 951 IC
1982 931 parts car / resurrection?
1980 924 NA (R&D lightweight)
1982 931 wana-be GTR race car |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | Fwiw, my hot rodded 931 has zero wheelspin/traction issues, including on the track. Not sure why...my 924s race car really needs LSD. |
Might it have something to do with tire selection and road surface?
My 937 didn't come with an LSD, and I've scared myself more than once taking hard corners on back roads, where the rear-end has stepped out on me. Admittedly, it does not have fresh rubber. I've never had that problem on the CS or 941, but of course, they both have really grippy and reasonably fresh tires. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Cedric

Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2806 Location: Sweden
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| ideola wrote: | | Rasta Monsta wrote: | | Fwiw, my hot rodded 931 has zero wheelspin/traction issues, including on the track. Not sure why...my 924s race car really needs LSD. |
Might it have something to do with tire selection and road surface?
My 937 didn't come with an LSD, and I've scared myself more than once taking hard corners on back roads, where the rear-end has stepped out on me. Admittedly, it does not have fresh rubber. I've never had that problem on the CS or 941, but of course, they both have really grippy and reasonably fresh tires. |
I dont think that have anything to do with LSD probably mostly tyres, non LSD cars tend to be easier to push since you get inner wheel spin rather than stepping out the whole rear axle.
It depends on speed versus tyre grip versus track layout versus a lot of more details, but I have some wheelspin in my 931 out of some tricky corners, I wouldnt mind an LSD at all. But not nearly as bad as my stock n/a (only R comp tyres) i drove many years ago. the 931 is way better track setup though..
But thats on track, on the street it wouldnt matter except for maybe some really slippery days. _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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Rasta Monsta

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| ideola wrote: | | Might it have something to do with tire selection and road surface? |
It might, I definitely use sticky tires. It is odd though, on boost in low speed corners I can feel the car digging for traction. It does not lift and smoke the inside tire like my race car does. I initially thought it had limited slip! _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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