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peterld
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 955 Location: Noosa Heads QLD Australia
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Bravo Steve......now that drive train should turn your new acquisition into a proper ýellowbird'. _________________ 80/81 932/8 ROW |
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Mike9311
Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 1700 Location: Chicago-ish
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:12 am Post subject: |
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+1
You truly have been throwing down consistently for years and backing it up with numbers. Truly awesome _________________ 1980 931 since 1989
1981 Ideola 931 Club Sport
1982 931 Entwicklungsfahrzeug
1979 924 NA ohne 650 mit 471
1982 931 Red Resurrection - 951 IC
1982 931 parts car / resurrection?
1980 924 NA (R&D lightweight)
1982 931 wana-be GTR race car |
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Carrera RSR
Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Posts: 2313 Location: Somerset, UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Mike9311 wrote: | +1
You truly have been throwing down consistently for years and backing it up with numbers. Truly awesome |
Thank you Mike. Now I asked Dan some years ago, but can you get the Clubsport on the dyno as I'd love to see some data on that cars motor + mods _________________ 1980 931 - forged pistons, Piper cam, K27/26 3257 6.10 hybrid turbo, 951 FMIC, custom intake, Mittelmotor dizzy & cam pulley, H&S exhaust, GAZ Gold, Fuch'ed, Quaife
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Carrera RSR
Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Posts: 2313 Location: Somerset, UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:19 am Post subject: |
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peterld wrote: | Bravo Steve......now that drive train should turn your new acquisition into a proper ýellowbird'. |
Thanks Peter. The yellow CGT will have fresh running gear, don't need to take anything from the red/white turbo. The area of consideration right now is whether to put a rebuilt motor in the CGT or take it out of the turbo? Time and money wise, borrowing the turbo motor would be easier. But a lot of jobs to be done on the CGT first before I worry more on the motor option _________________ 1980 931 - forged pistons, Piper cam, K27/26 3257 6.10 hybrid turbo, 951 FMIC, custom intake, Mittelmotor dizzy & cam pulley, H&S exhaust, GAZ Gold, Fuch'ed, Quaife
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peterld
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 955 Location: Noosa Heads QLD Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Steve.....I gathered (maybe mistakenly) that the motor in the red/white was NOT the original to that car, and that you in fact had the numbers matching motor for that car tucked away.
Numbers matching should ideally remain with the car......if you are considering long term value. _________________ 80/81 932/8 ROW |
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Mike9311
Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 1700 Location: Chicago-ish
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Carrera RSR wrote: | Mike9311 wrote: | +1
You truly have been throwing down consistently for years and backing it up with numbers. Truly awesome |
Thank you Mike. Now I asked Dan some years ago, but can you get the Clubsport on the dyno as I'd love to see some data on that cars motor + mods |
I remember you asking and I promise I will get it done. There is one by my house that a good friend has used. _________________ 1980 931 since 1989
1981 Ideola 931 Club Sport
1982 931 Entwicklungsfahrzeug
1979 924 NA ohne 650 mit 471
1982 931 Red Resurrection - 951 IC
1982 931 parts car / resurrection?
1980 924 NA (R&D lightweight)
1982 931 wana-be GTR race car |
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Fasteddie313
Joined: 29 Sep 2013 Posts: 2596 Location: MI
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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About 270chp @ a bit over 1.1 bar with morghens old k27?
That’s only about 16psi.. Nice numbers..
Thought you ran about 1.4 though? Didn’t want to dyno that high? _________________ 80 Turbo - Slightly Modified |
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morghen
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 8944 Location: Romania
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Fasteddie313 wrote: | About 270chp @ a bit over 1.1 bar with morghens old k27?
That’s only about 16psi.. Nice numbers..
Thought you ran about 1.4 though? Didn’t want to dyno that high? |
Also he never dynoed past 6000RPM, so if he'd do a 6600RPM he'd get a bit "more numbers'
Part of the reason is that Steve is running the car in a local event and there is a group limit of 280hp which he wants to stay under. _________________ https://www.the924.com |
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Carrera RSR
Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Posts: 2313 Location: Somerset, UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Fasteddie313 wrote: | About 270chp @ a bit over 1.1 bar with morghens old k27?
That’s only about 16psi.. Nice numbers..
Thought you ran about 1.4 though? Didn’t want to dyno that high? |
Averagely I have been running give or take 1.1bar for quite a while. I have ran more but its been a little det prone and too lean at the top end. Main issue for not running more is the Mittelmotor dizzy. I used to have an early 'race' version with a 2bar sensor, so I could pull timing over 1bar. Long story short, I now have the latest Bluetooth version of the dizzy but it only has a 1bar sensor, so cannot pull timing over 1bar anymore. So dyno'd at 1.1 and left the timing as advanced as possible, which it responded well to. Its now running 25deg at full rpm + full boost. _________________ 1980 931 - forged pistons, Piper cam, K27/26 3257 6.10 hybrid turbo, 951 FMIC, custom intake, Mittelmotor dizzy & cam pulley, H&S exhaust, GAZ Gold, Fuch'ed, Quaife
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Carrera RSR
Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Posts: 2313 Location: Somerset, UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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morghen wrote: | Fasteddie313 wrote: | About 270chp @ a bit over 1.1 bar with morghens old k27?
That’s only about 16psi.. Nice numbers..
Thought you ran about 1.4 though? Didn’t want to dyno that high? |
Also he never dynoed past 6000RPM, so if he'd do a 6600RPM he'd get a bit "more numbers'
Part of the reason is that Steve is running the car in a local event and there is a group limit of 280hp which he wants to stay under. |
True
If I ran over 6000rpm it does nothing to the results under that rpm ......but it does add to a bigger 'Top Trumps' bhp number above. Nice for the bar room bragging rights, but I shift before 6000 anyway, torques are dropping away. _________________ 1980 931 - forged pistons, Piper cam, K27/26 3257 6.10 hybrid turbo, 951 FMIC, custom intake, Mittelmotor dizzy & cam pulley, H&S exhaust, GAZ Gold, Fuch'ed, Quaife
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Rasta Monsta
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11727 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Carrera RSR wrote: | I'm done modifying this car now. |
You must be disappointed. I understand that 300 HP with CIS is "relatively easy."
Maybe you should fly Fasteddie over to the UK for a consultation? _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Fasteddie313
Joined: 29 Sep 2013 Posts: 2596 Location: MI
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Rasta Monsta wrote: | Carrera RSR wrote: | I'm done modifying this car now. |
You must be disappointed. I understand that 300 HP with CIS is "relatively easy."
Maybe you should fly Fasteddie over to the UK for a consultation? |
Oh damn.. Rasta is still mad at me..
What’s the max you ever got out of your 931 Rasta? Wasn’t it like 13psi?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=POVuP3VRAlg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UoVKeAE8rRA
A US 931 fuel distributor will spray about 325HP worth of fuel.. I measured it..
Mine will spray like 600-700..
I have no doubt CRSR could hit 300 crank on his setup if he tried.. _________________ 80 Turbo - Slightly Modified |
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Rasta Monsta
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11727 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Less talk, more dyno, Skippy.
Great looking dash, by the way. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Cedric
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2674 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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It hink its been pretty well proven by mr Eddie that his set-up can provide fuelling for alot of boost. He already provided logs before, so it has all been proven already. Bu it's not nearly a stock or stockish cis setup like steeves, but still cis. We are just waiting for him to find a larger turbo
I will hopefully get my car back on the dyno this year to see what i can get out of my fully stock cis euro system. I Expect around 245hp. _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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Carrera RSR
Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Posts: 2313 Location: Somerset, UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Considering my 2022 motorsport options. Only had 3 outings in 2021
Porsche Club GB Speed & Hill @ Shelsley Walsh last year
_________________ 1980 931 - forged pistons, Piper cam, K27/26 3257 6.10 hybrid turbo, 951 FMIC, custom intake, Mittelmotor dizzy & cam pulley, H&S exhaust, GAZ Gold, Fuch'ed, Quaife
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