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jeffkay1723
Joined: 23 Nov 2010 Posts: 21 Location: Burbank,CA
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:14 am Post subject: Air Mixture Hole and Injector question |
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Hello, I have never owned a 924 before and I am getting used to the CIS... There is a hole in between the air intake boot and the fuel distributor where the "beam" adjusting 3mm allen is. After making adjustments to this, if I am idling, I can put my finger over the hole and the idle changes. This leads me to believe that there is supposed to be a rubber plug over this hole during normal operation? Haynes sort of alludes to this in the text but I have never seen one in a picture, etc. Can you let me know if there is supposed to be one or this hole always allows air into the vacuum side of the intake? Or a pic or part number, etc? I am still tracking down vacuum leaks but getting there slowly.
Next, I know that the injectors are threaded and have the outer black threaded collars that go into the head of a 931. My question is, is it possible to use regular 924 style injectors in the 931? Obviously I mean with some modifications to accept the o-ring style injector. Is there any other specification change in terms of fuel delivery and or spray pattern? I am able to get the 924 type injectors pretty cheap and this is a budget project so I am thinking of this approach. I would lock them into the black collars--might have to drill out the treads and use a sealant. Yes, it would not be simple to replace them later but I am okay with that as long as fuel delivery and smogging will be good for a driver. Has anybody done this kind of mod, etc?
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Rich H
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 2665 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Yes there is defiantly supposed to be a screw cover on that hole.
As for standard 924 injectors I doubt very much anyone has bothered to check compatibility - why bother, there is nothing to be gained? At worst get yours cleaned. _________________ 1994 Lotus Esprit S4 - Work in progress...
1980 Porsche 924 S2 DITC Turbo - Original spec
1978 Homo-Sapiens - Tired spec
1953 Landrover S1 - Pensioner Spec |
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Grenadiers
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 3222 Location: Nelson, WI & Prescott, AZ
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:11 am Post subject: |
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good old tape of some kind will cover that a/f mixture hole as well. _________________ '83 944 Track car.
'88 924S Track car.
'89 944 Turbo
2004 Winnebago Vectra monster RV
2012 Jeep Wrangler
2014 Kia Soul
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stevekat

Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 719 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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The reason the insulators and injectors are threaded is because of the positive pressure in the intake. You should not use standard o-ring type, modified for the application, because they would be subject to leakage past the o-rings, where the thread version creates a tight seal. _________________ "Never get out of the boat. Absolutely goddamn right. Unless you are goin' all the way."
Gone to new home: '81 924T, US version, CGT Intercooler, UTCIS-PT, Euro DITC, Greddy Trust MBC, Forged Fuchs Flat Dish 6's, Factory Recaro's. |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Grenadiers wrote: | | good old tape of some kind |
Jeff, please do NOT do this. The part you need is HERE.
Gren, IOU one atomic wedgie. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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stevekat

Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 719 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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The Porsche part number for the small rubber plug on a short steel stick for the mixture opening is:
911.110.934.00
I may have sourced this from EBS Racing at one point. Not sure if I gave them the part number, or just a description. _________________ "Never get out of the boat. Absolutely goddamn right. Unless you are goin' all the way."
Gone to new home: '81 924T, US version, CGT Intercooler, UTCIS-PT, Euro DITC, Greddy Trust MBC, Forged Fuchs Flat Dish 6's, Factory Recaro's. |
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Grenadiers
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 3222 Location: Nelson, WI & Prescott, AZ
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Spike came with a touch of aluminum tape over that hole! Works great in a pinch. I subsequently found the correct part in my stash, all is well! _________________ '83 944 Track car.
'88 924S Track car.
'89 944 Turbo
2004 Winnebago Vectra monster RV
2012 Jeep Wrangler
2014 Kia Soul
2001 Ford F350 powerstroke |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| stevekat wrote: | | small rubber plug on a short steel stick for the mixture opening |
Steve, the OP has a 931. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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stevekat

Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 719 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:38 am Post subject: |
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The little rubber plug on a stick works well on my 931. My assumption was that this 911 part number is the same as my part, though I am not 100% certain. I cannot find reference to the source I used to get it. Probably Porsche, EBS or PAP. Really a convenient addition. _________________ "Never get out of the boat. Absolutely goddamn right. Unless you are goin' all the way."
Gone to new home: '81 924T, US version, CGT Intercooler, UTCIS-PT, Euro DITC, Greddy Trust MBC, Forged Fuchs Flat Dish 6's, Factory Recaro's. |
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jeffkay1723
Joined: 23 Nov 2010 Posts: 21 Location: Burbank,CA
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | Grenadiers wrote: | | good old tape of some kind |
Jeff, please do NOT do this. The part you need is HERE.
Gren, IOU one atomic wedgie. |
Thanks for that! |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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911.110.934.00 now appears to be NLA. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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stevekat

Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 719 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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emoore924
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2822
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| You cannot switch the injectors... |
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