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72rallye
Joined: 08 Apr 2023 Posts: 18 Location: San Diego, CA, USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Gut beobachtet! I don't know what happened. Maybe I made a typo, maybe it was one of those transistors that are simply labeled "C328", and one has to guess if it means BC328 (pnp) or 2SC328 (npn).
In my view the circuit needs an npn transistor to work properly. I am going to check the PCB again, and then update the drawing. Unfortunately, I won't have access to the relay for many weeks, so it'll take a while.
There is another issue with the Zener diode Z2. It was labeled "200", but I couldn't determine the model number. It is unlikely that the breakdown voltage is 200V, since the ignition coil probably cannot generate such a high voltage when the current shuts off. A voltage of 20.0V would be very reasonable.
Thomas _________________ 81 931, 86 951, 86 928 5spd, 75 911S coupe |
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Raize
Joined: 18 Sep 2013 Posts: 281 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:56 am Post subject: |
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Whoever can remanufacture the fuel pump relay will be rich!
Well, by 924 standards. |
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Siegfrieds
Joined: 18 Dec 2019 Posts: 6 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:17 am Post subject: |
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Ok, thanks for your correction.
Striking rich is only possible with high numbers of products.
Who needs a relay ?
for the 924 as of 1975-1978 ?
fir the 934 as of 1979 - ? _________________ SiegfriedS
1976 924 |
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72rallye
Joined: 08 Apr 2023 Posts: 18 Location: San Diego, CA, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:26 am Post subject: |
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>>>>>BC 328 is a pnp relais, the circuit shows BC328 as a npn one. Mistake…probablyanother BC 327 .
There is nothing wrong with the circuit diagram. The npn transistor in the diagram is labeled BC238B, and NOT BC328.
I checked the Zener diode Z2 again. The two relays that I own have different components in it. One has an ITT ZY100 diode, and the other a ZY200. The listed corresponding breakdown voltages are 100V and 200V. This seems very high to me, but so be it. I verified that the breakdown voltage is definitely larger than 30V, which is how high my test setup went.
Btw, the second relay has a BC548B installed, not a BC238B. Not a problem, since they are only being used as a switch, and not as an analog device.
Thomas _________________ 81 931, 86 951, 86 928 5spd, 75 911S coupe |
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Siegfrieds
Joined: 18 Dec 2019 Posts: 6 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Ok, understood, thank you! _________________ SiegfriedS
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