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juno  



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kahl - I can't get insured on any 944 for some reason. or a decent price. I'm paying less than £1000 for my 924 Turbo. I can do any modifications I want except to the engine without telling them. I have to wait at least a year before I can start increasing the performance.

The car could do with respraying anyway. All the quotes I've had for resprays have been around £2000 because it's metallic. If the bodykit is coming in at around £3000 fitted and sprayed that's what I'd rather do. It's the front of the 924 that I'm not too keen on. To me the 968 is the ultimate looker, but again insurance would be crippling for me. The 968 conversion would be closer to £5000 all in all.

I have to admit, I do prefer the shape of the 944 personally. I like those wide arches and especially the front end. I know it's straying from originality but for what I paid for the car it's worth it to me.

I agree with you on the Carrera GT thing - those back arches just look stuck on at the last minute.

I suppose it's personal preference at the end of the day. I bought the car for the way it drives and the badge on the bonnet.

What I really want since I was about 5 years old is a 928. I can remember one of my cousins having one when his business was doing very well. Don't think I could run one of those on my salary at the moment though! That's a couple of years away for me.
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iwantacarrera  



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm converting to GT style for 2 reasons:

1) The PO nailed my n/a 924 into a bollard and killed the nose panel, front valence and both wings (fenders).

2) The standard front is beautiful (true) but does look a little feminine. I prefer the brutal look of the GT, stick on bits and all - at least its honest, unlike the 944 which looks like a politically correct version of the GT.

As for converting from 924-944 - why oh why?

Want classic chic - stay with 924 original styling.
Want brutal - 924 GT/GTR all the way.
Want acceptable and understated? Buy a 944, pay higher insurance and fall in line with a lot of she sheep.

Perhaps thats just a vast generalisation but the 944 was Porsches way of reining in the unruly 924 GT.

As for the PEFA kits. If I wanted something that looked like that I would buy it from the land of the rising sun.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone is interested in getting a Holbert Racing C-Production kit let me know. Offering very nice fiberglass reproductions for around $1000.00 shipped Greyhound anywhere in the US for $50.00. Kit includes rear flares, front fenders and front air dam. Also, will have Carrera GT kit, D-Production kit, Lemans GTR kit, boxed rockers, hood scoops, rear valance and entire website up soon. Have the C-Prod available on a made to order basis for now.
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wdb  



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why is it no one is making these kits out of the less expensive plastics(polyester cloth and resin) etc., its easier to work, cost less, doesnt crack or shrink and show the cloth weave, and is more durable/last longer . even some boat manufactures are making hulls and decks out of it .

even wonder woman knows plastic is better .

http://www.hammacher.com/publish/z10343.asp

http://unisci.com/stories/20012/0424016.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some details about plastics and boating/hulls I found on the web


The manufacturing process is quick, suitable for most shapes, hard to break and easy to repair, says Papin. Off cuts can be recycled, and most importantly, Papin says there are none of the bad health effects associated with styrene.
The abrasion and impact resistance of reinforced thermoplastics is superior to that of conventional GRP(glass reinforced plastic+fiberglass), according to Papin. A hammer blow that would shatter a conventional GRP object simply bounces off its reinforced thermoplastic equivalent, yet the products are lighter, because reinforced thermoplastic is less dense than GRP.
Reinforced thermoplastics do not absorb water and are not prone to osmosis. In tests, reinforced thermoplastics have remained intact after 72 hours immersion in boiling water, while conventional GRP has become water logged, he says.
Finished thermoplastic products also have excellent fire resistance and, very importantly, production costs are lower, Papin says.
The manufacturing process does not involve the use of any resins, accelerators or catalysts, eliminating worker exposure to dangerous volatile organic compounds (VOC) and greatly diminishing the fire risks associated with boatbuilding.
The environmental benefits extend to the end of a boat’s life because instead of being adding to a landfill site, a reinforced thermoplastic hull can be recycled, says Papin.
The consortium has various patents granted, applied for and pending. Brady says that once tests are complete, the intention is to set up an induction center where companies can pay to be helped to get into production rapidly
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/futurecar
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After seeing a Carrera GT conversion in silver, I think i'll probably go that way - pink script and all. The money saved from the kit & installation will pay for a nice set of wheels & tyres.
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My924gtc  



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wdb--after reading the Pop Sci article, and the other excellent info you so graciously provided us...sounds like the industry is trying hard to make it a simple business to step into. I agree that there seems to be no obvious reason not to try this method.

As long as there are no issues with getting the finish on the car to adhere as well and the consistancy between the metal body and the plastic componenets.

Using plenty of flex agent when it comes time to finish would be required.

So many of the large automakers are doing much the same thing with dent resistant panels and the like.

Very interesting in deed. Thanks again for the posts.
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Lizard  



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark any plans on making something lemans wide for fenders? front and rear, except witht the rear not being exact replicas more like a cgt rear flair?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liz---Still looking for someone kind enough to allow me to make molds off of their Lemans stuff, a donor so to speak.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

even boeing is going with plastic/composites .the new plane thier designing" 7E7 Dream Liner "is going to be I think 80% plastic

click mutimedia then pictures to see the mock ups .
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/7e7/flash.html
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

924 racer or Vaughan is the only person on the board with a lemans ot GTR kit that I am aware of weither he will lend the parts or not I have no idea
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