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Joes924Racer
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 Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: joes924racers 1980 931 |
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I realize its to soon to do this but forget it im to excited.
A board member pmed me with this offer and lets just say
it was very reasonable. Its in my area too. Heres a few pics.
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1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
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Nein37
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome Joe! I hope this one works out for ya. 
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Joes924Racer
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Yea well im gonna put the turbo,torque tube and front turbo badge panel
on my project car and later put the other stuff into the turbo
so its gonna be a switch er-roo pretty wild huh. Making
my project into a turbo and the turbo into a non turbo. 
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Joes924Racer
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like Im on my way to owning this 931. That means Im moving
upi on the board. Heres a few more pics.. I recieved today. Ill
be posting here .. . Guess that means I better get my sh7t together.
Only post in complete sentences with proper puncuation and paragraph useage... easy enough.
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fiat22turbo
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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Nice! Congrats.
Want the black seats from my car? They need to repaired, but they would be free!
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ideola
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice, Joe, looks like a good project, will be nice to see another resurrection.
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alexvex
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| Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like mine when I first got it home:
And then a few months later:
Keep us updated!
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Joes924Racer
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Hows that paint holding up alexvex ... your is a 1980 thats what year mine is. oh the possabilities.
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fiat22turbo
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| Joes924Racer wrote: | Yea well im gonna put the turbo,torque tube and front turbo badge panel
on my project car and later put the other stuff into the turbo
so its gonna be a switch er-roo pretty wild huh. Making
my project into a turbo and the turbo into a non turbo. |
You do know that is going to be a ton of work, right?
I'd say you would be better off getting the 931 running as is and take the 924 off the road to play with.
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Joes924Racer
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Im pretty good at wrench turning. First thing is replace the belt
set timeing then turn it over to check cp.
Then pull the motor and remove intake and exhaust along with turbo. Replace all gaskets and hardware on turbo and exhaust and intake ....clean everthing up really good.
Cant I just un plug the engine harness and switch them out.
Im gonna run it with an msd6. Do I have to go with the 931 clutch
I know its better..My NA clutch is a brand new sachs unit.
Arent the trannies the same ... snailshell 5 spd, maybe i wont even change out torque tubes. My NA has had all new recently shifter bushings replaced.
So in short cant I just go with the 931 motor and 931 clutch. Are the clutch
discs interchangable id like to have the 931 clutch with my new Na disc.
My plans are to intercool it.
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fiat22turbo
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Guy, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong anywhere down here. I'm just going from what I've gleaned from my short time here and some prior experience with turbo 4 cylinder cars.
| Joes924Racer wrote: | | I'm pretty good at wrench turning. First thing is replace the belt set timing then turn it over to check cp. |
Good plan, bad things happen when the timing is wrong 
| Joes924Racer wrote: | | Then pull the motor, remove intake and exhaust along with turbo. Replace all gaskets and hardware on turbo and exhaust and intake ....clean everything up really good. |
Good so far. Though I don't know if the gaskets are what goes bad as much as the oil and water lines do.
| Joes924Racer wrote: | | Can't I just unplug the engine harness and switch them out? |
Not sure on this one, but given what I've seen of the wiring diagrams you may end up splicing things and/or changing the fuse panel under the dashboard. I would start by looking at the wiring diagrams for both before making that assumption.
| Joes924Racer wrote: | | Im gonna run it with an msd6. |
Not sure why you'd do this, what you really need is a knock sensor to deal with the inevitable ping (that you can't hear) because we have crappy gas here in Oregon. Look into a more programmable solution with the ability to detect knock.
Really they don't have any standards for cleanliness of the gas here in Oregon and the high octane stuff sits in the tanks longer gathering crud.
| Joes924Racer wrote: | Do I have to go with the 931 clutch
I know its better..My NA clutch is a brand new sachs unit. |
Its more than better, the splines are different because the driveline is stronger (larger, etc). You would be better off using the entire drivetrain stem to stern.
| Joes924Racer wrote: | | Arent the trannies the same ... snailshell 5 spd, maybe i wont even change out torque tubes. |
Input shafts for the transmissions are different sizes. There might be gearing changes.
| Joes924Racer wrote: | | My NA has had all new recently shifter bushings replaced. |
Luckily those are the same.
| Joes924Racer wrote: | So in short cant I just go with the 931 motor and 931 clutch. Are the clutch
discs interchangable id like to have the 931 clutch with my new Na disc. |
Nope. 931 is the 911 style clutch, the disc and pressure plates are completely different from the 924na. Not too mention you have a hydraulically actuated clutch versus a cable actuated clutch.
| Joes924Racer wrote: | | My plans are to intercool it. |
Considering more than a few people have run into problems with their boosted 924na's slipping clutches at around 200hp, I'd say an intercooled 931 motor would easily reach that and more. Then you've got the potential for twisting or breaking the shaft in the torque tube or damaging the input shaft of the transmision or finally losing an axle all because you were trying to be cheap and save a few bucks on a clutch kit.
Then you've got the differences in the suspension, heat shields, etc that you'll likely need to really make it all work as well as it could. I think in the end it might be easier to move some body and interior panels and repaint the 931 than it would be to convert the "Flying Psychedelic Banana Split" to a factory turbo solution. Just my opinion take it for what it is worth.
Good luck with whatever you do and keep us in the loop
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Joes924Racer
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:10 am Post subject: |
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fiat22turbo,
Flying psychedelic banana split, wtf its in how you like your
'smoothie' man. I like mine with banana and blue-berries &
oranges.. with vanilla & coconut preferably daily.
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fiat22turbo
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Joe, it was a joke, sorry I forgot to include a smiley face. 
All of that time spent writing that to try and help you out and you focus on that? 
Heh, to me it looks like some of the crazy pro-street cars from the eighties (in my opinion, I'm glad they're mostly gone too as they were usually slow and ugly)
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Joes924Racer
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| Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:05 am Post subject: |
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To me thst just stuck out.. To me it hit like
maybe using pyschedelic drugs, 
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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Joes924Racer
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Just to clarify this is a 924 turbo series 1.
It has a k26 turbo run on 10 pounds of boost.
It doesnt have have the ditc flywheel triggered ignition.
Why doesnt it have the 5 lug discbrakes.
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