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morghen · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9044 Location: Romania

I bought this abandoned car for the sole purpose to develop the EFI kit on it, revive it enough to create some sense for the next guy to continue investing in it and restore it to a good car. Early 928s run k-jet and they also suffer just like the 924.
It has a 4.5L V8, i quite like that engine so far, the way its designed and the whole car is above the 911 in terms of...well everything.
Interior is absolutely trashed, needs everything replaced. It was a beautiful dark blue interior but now looks like two grizzly bears made it their den for two seasons in a row.

Already started by designing the injector adapters to use the exact same injectors i use for our 924 EFI kits.
I plan to use the same 4 port distributor from the 924 EFI kit as well, and hook two fuel lines for one port, basically do the opposite that was done on the 924GTS.

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Mike9311 · Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 1793 Location: Chicago-ish

I don't know what I love more, the kit or the garage!

Seriously though, that is a great idea! Will be cool to watch this play out
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1980 931 since 1989
1981 Ideola 931 Club Sport
1982 931 Entwicklungsfahrzeug
1979 924 NA ohne 650 mit 471
1982 931 Red Resurrection - 951 IC
1982 931 parts car / resurrection?
1980 924 NA (R&D lightweight)
1982 931 wana-be GTR race car

Raize · Joined: 18 Sep 2013 Posts: 337 Location: Scotland

Why not do 911? There must be more money in that unless the owners are too purist to want to upgrade?

I used to want a 928 but I'm glad I didn't ever buy one, they are just too expensive to run. Even the 924 is too expensive to run these days. And they don't pay for themselves in appreciation like a 911 would.

morghen · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9044 Location: Romania

I like to do special cars

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safe · Joined: 18 Mar 2017 Posts: 671 Location: Sweden

morghen · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9044 Location: Romania

Exactly, last summer i looked into buying a Ferrari and making an efi kit for those. I spoke to someone from their community and more than the 911 guys, the Ferrari guys are crazy about absolute originality because for most of them the car is an investment, and it seems those guys would prefer spending 2-3k on a tune-up rather than upgrade their cars.
Most 911 guys think similarly.
These kits belong to driver’s cars.
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Fifty50Plus · Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:49 am Post subject:

I build engines for the 356, 912 and early 911 crowd and the 356 fellows are much more loath to hop up their engines than the 911 guys. In either case, if the chassis is a desirable one, the owners are most reluctant to do anything beyond factory original. Remachining the Solex and Zenith carbs along with restoration of the distributor make these cars run like new (yup, just like a fresh 1960's VW). The later 911 folks (1973 - and on) will do anything to increase horsepower. Most of them go for much larger engine swaps. The 356 ('51-'65) and longhood 911s ('65-'72) are quite into numbers matching while the 912 ('65-'69) owners are just starting to get into numbers matching since the values of their cars are going up appreciably.
Granted, all these early cars are carbureted or mechanical fuel injected ('69-'72) while the later 911s started with Continuous Injection System (sound familiar?) and finally went to digital injection.
There might be a market for Ciprian with the 911 SC (CIS) crowd but then again bunches of them rip it off and bolt on Weber carbs. Sheesh.
For all of you that think about the cost to upgrade your 924, The early guys pay thousands of dollars for carb and distributor restoration and they get a car that runs like a brand new '60s Beetle. The kits that Ciprian has engineered for the 924 are light years ahead of what was available from the Porsche factory until the Turbo and finally the digital era.
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1982 924 NA race car - Sold
1982 924 Turbo almost a PoS
1981 924 Turbo a real PoS, new engine
1982 924 Turbo nice body, blown engine
1972 911 E race car - going to Vintage
Various 944s to become IT-S race car

D Hook · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3158 Location: Omaha, NE

Doesn't the DeLorean use CIS also? Or a similar mechanical fuel system?
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Raize · Joined: 18 Sep 2013 Posts: 337 Location: Scotland

Cedric · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2742 Location: Sweden

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Mike9311 · Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 1793 Location: Chicago-ish

Correct me if I am wrong here but isn't this kit entirely reversible? Easy even? I thought that was one of the selling points. While you own it, drop on a Ciprian Kit, and enjoy

Then when its time to sell your "investment", swap back?

When I saw a Testarossa torn down for service at Bart's shop it was certainly a site to behold (back half taken off) but my head was reeling at the same time. Two big CIS head units, nuts. So cool, but also nuts

I agree though too, there has certainly been some interesting and cool stuff done throughout the years. Its a balance of time, talent, and motivation. For me it seems is always time I need
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1980 931 since 1989
1981 Ideola 931 Club Sport
1982 931 Entwicklungsfahrzeug
1979 924 NA ohne 650 mit 471
1982 931 Red Resurrection - 951 IC
1982 931 parts car / resurrection?
1980 924 NA (R&D lightweight)
1982 931 wana-be GTR race car

morghen · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9044 Location: Romania

Had a tiny bit of energy to work on this project.
Finished defining the fuel lines, this will nicely go into the drawing and they can then be easily replicated.

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safe · Joined: 18 Mar 2017 Posts: 671 Location: Sweden

Those intake rubber sleeves doesn't look like they are on very good.

Unlike the new fuel system!
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morghen · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9044 Location: Romania

Yeah this is a rescue project car thing. Has been abandoned since 2009 or so.
I havent touched it yet, just used it for developing the efi stuff.
Before starting the engine i’ll have to do some work on the car.
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morghen · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9044 Location: Romania

The car is up and running.
Took the first drives the last days, that V8 sound is incredible.
The video doesnt do it justice but i still recommend listening to it on headphones or some decent speakers.
I'll get some better audio of this car as it truly sounds amazing.

The EFI kit works perfectly on the V8, i'll need to fine tune it and finally dyno it of course and then test it, but i think that within a couple of months i will be able to take orders for this kit as well.

https://youtube.com/shorts/BXXOAQQviK4?si=OEtb2GVSFM3jOdqr
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