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Signs of wastegate creep

 
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Josh  



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Signs of wastegate creep Reply with quote

Hi

I have been struggling with the sealing of my air intake between the turbo and intake manifold. I have an aftermarket boost gauge installed. My problem is that when i drive the car the boost gauge shows the car going out of vacuum and sitting at 'zero boost'. So its no longer under vacuum but its not boosting ether. This might be the wrong terminology but its as if the cars intake pressure has reached equilibrium.

If I continue to accelerate relatively hard the boost gauge wont move and stays at zero. Eventually at a certain rpm (WOT) the boost gauge jumps over to full boost. I was wondering if this could be due to waste gate creep? As surely an air leak would have to be extremely large to hamper the boost to such an extent.

The boost gauge is relatively new so don't think it would be faulty

Feed back would be highly appreciated!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends where in the intake system you have your take off for the boost gauge. Before or after the throttle body or which vacuum line. It makes a difference to the guage.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The boost gauge must be plumbed in AFTER the throttle body. If you have a S2 931, this is easy to accomplish by tee-ing off of the line that feeds the DITC. There is a banjo fitting at the back of the intake manifold, and you can easily tee into the line there. If you have an S1, just drill a hole in the intake manifold and tap it for 1/8 NPT. Then install put a 1/8NPT-to-hose barb fitting, and use that to tie in the boost gauge.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the recirculation valve is stuck opened?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nein37 wrote:
Maybe the recirculation valve is stuck opened?


Happened to me, the rubber gasket was all smeared in the recirc.piston bore. Resulted in no boost at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's not stuck, the recirc valve should make a clack sound whenever the throttle is opened/closed. That's the quick-easy test.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid question and I don't know where you gauge is installed, but is the vacuum line to the gauge kinked or pinched anywhere?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Signs of wastegate creep Reply with quote

Josh wrote:
Eventually at a certain rpm (WOT) the boost gauge jumps over to full boost.


Does this "certain RPM" have a name?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Signs of wastegate creep Reply with quote

Rasta Monsta wrote:
Josh wrote:
Eventually at a certain rpm (WOT) the boost gauge jumps over to full boost.


Does this "certain RPM" have a name?


I say it's, "Tim."
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ideola wrote:
The boost gauge must be plumbed in AFTER the throttle body. If you have a S2 931, this is easy to accomplish by tee-ing off of the line that feeds the DITC. There is a banjo fitting at the back of the intake manifold, and you can easily tee into the line there. If you have an S1, just drill a hole in the intake manifold and tap it for 1/8 NPT. Then install put a 1/8NPT-to-hose barb fitting, and use that to tie in the boost gauge.
i have taken my boost gauge feed from the top vacuum to dizzy tube.
This is after throttle body i guess, the same pipe that vents to air through the one way vlve
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