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931 torque tube + 944 interchange

 
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epsylon  



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:08 am    Post subject: 931 torque tube + 944 interchange Reply with quote

i am getting a loud bearing type noise when idleing in nuetral, goes away when i depress the clutch. i assume this is the torque tube bearings.

my question is are all 944 ( pre 85 and the later ) transmissions and torque tubes the same? do these swap into the late 931s ( 81-82 ) without modification?
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John Brown  



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. 944 and late (81/82) 931 can swap the diveshaft housing.

While you're at it don't forget to upgrade to the Ford clutch disc!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, I know that clutch change has been discussed here many times, but are you serious that it's a good thing? I'm asking cause I'm about to add the clutch to my new motor and want to save a few bucks.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the clutch change you are refering to is the one that is a direct plug in play ( ford bronco II ) for the 931 right? not the mustang clutch that is used on the earlier 924 5 speeds conversions to the 944 transmissions and torque tubes.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, I was just teasing. But, yeah, I, and I think Vaughan, have both been more than happy using the BroncoII clutch disc with a 931.

I am probably wrong, but I do not think anyone has listed a replacement disc for the 924 other than OEM. (Using stock 924 shafts).

So it's a project ripe for exploration.
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Smoothie  



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Azndrgn's research suggested the disc for a 90-92 1.8L jetta might work as a replacement for the 924 NA, but:
azndrgn wrote:
As I said before this is just what the books say, I haven't checked to see if it will actually work since I don't have a clutch disc to compare it with.

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=9091&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

So, what's left is for someone to give it a trial fitting and see that it doesn't interfere with the flywheel bolts or something else. It's about $47 for the Jetta disk vs $187 for OEM Sachs.
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wdb  



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you might call about the 77-79 amc gremlin spirit, concord . the amc flywheel part number is ( 1977-79 4 cylinder (AMC) 325-0437 ) I dont know if the pressure plate is the same , youll have to check the specs to see

http://www.matadorcoupe.com/enginespecs.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it was the 78 spirit that had the manual trans .

http://home.att.net/%7Efarna/amtech/engines.html#Audi2.0L
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