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mvde27
Joined: 14 Jan 2024 Posts: 27 Location: Macungie, PA
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:49 am Post subject: |
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UPDATE
As I search for the expansion tank I decided to start with the basics and tackle the timing belt water pump. 3 hours later trying to get just the cover off I gave up. Went back to all the books and research and videos and.......
There is a hose overtop of the cover that is not supposed to be there.
...and the fun continues.
Cannot remove the cover it that is in the way. Stay tuned.
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Cedric
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2614 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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That pipe should be there, its aeration of the turbo oil drain, which was one of the upgrades porsche did on this engine over time. I don know how much stuff you have removed, but with a non modified cam cover you will probably have to remove most stuff in front of the engine.
When its off you will have to take your angle grinder and cut of some small tabs, the ones that are causing the trouble. After that it will be a breeze to remove, im not sure what sadistical designer who made that cam cover, but thankfully its easy to fix. _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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mvde27
Joined: 14 Jan 2024 Posts: 27 Location: Macungie, PA
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Cedric wrote: | That pipe should be there, its aeration of the turbo oil drain, which was one of the upgrades porsche did on this engine over time. I don know how much stuff you have removed, but with a non modified cam cover you will probably have to remove most stuff in front of the engine.
When its off you will have to take your angle grinder and cut of some small tabs, the ones that are causing the trouble. After that it will be a breeze to remove, im not sure what sadistical designer who made that cam cover, but thankfully its easy to fix. |
Ok. I have looked at a lot of other engines and never saw this. A late 82 revise I guess.
If it’s oil filled I can remove it then thanks.
Still sketchy on which ones are fuel or coolant filled. Trying to tip toe disaster!
Cheers. _________________ '82 931 |
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Cedric
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2614 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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mvde27 wrote: | Cedric wrote: | That pipe should be there, its aeration of the turbo oil drain, which was one of the upgrades porsche did on this engine over time. I don know how much stuff you have removed, but with a non modified cam cover you will probably have to remove most stuff in front of the engine.
When its off you will have to take your angle grinder and cut of some small tabs, the ones that are causing the trouble. After that it will be a breeze to remove, im not sure what sadistical designer who made that cam cover, but thankfully its easy to fix. |
Ok. I have looked at a lot of other engines and never saw this. A late 82 revise I guess.
If it’s oil filled I can remove it then thanks.
Still sketchy on which ones are fuel or coolant filled. Trying to tip toe disaster!
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I came std on the s2s, and some s1s had it adopted aswell later on. You can remove it, it shouldnt be anything inside apart from a thin film of oil. _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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924RACR
Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 8815 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:22 am Post subject: |
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I do still have my old removed coolant overflow tank, if you want to stay that way; was going to sell it to another boardmember, but he disappeared.
But the 944 tank is so much nicer... _________________ Vaughan Scott
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'82 931 Plat. Silver
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safe
Joined: 18 Mar 2017 Posts: 592 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:39 am Post subject: |
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I use the 944 tank too, but its an NA so I don't know if it fits the same on a 931. If there in an ignition module on the fender well it needs to be relocated I think. _________________ /Magnus, Stockholm Sweden
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mvde27
Joined: 14 Jan 2024 Posts: 27 Location: Macungie, PA
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:53 am Post subject: |
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924RACR wrote: | I do still have my old removed coolant overflow tank, if you want to stay that way; was going to sell it to another boardmember, but he disappeared.
But the 944 tank is so much nicer... |
I’m interested in the OG tank yes. PM for your terms. Thanks. _________________ '82 931 |
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mvde27
Joined: 14 Jan 2024 Posts: 27 Location: Macungie, PA
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:03 am Post subject: Progress Update |
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Been cleaning the car interior and the engine bay.
Researching, gathering knowledge, gathering parts on the vehicle while I wait for the mechanic to reach out again to do his once over.
Such an incredible vehicle top to bottom! Love that its not perfect and needs some love!
I did start it the other day after correcting some of the missteps that I found.
Started smoking on the right side, possibly some burn off but didnt want to risk it so I shut it down.
Addressing the Carbon canister, the airflow hoses that were missing. Was hoping to address the Water pump and timing belt and the oil leaks but waiting on mechanic first. Might just forget it and tackle it anyway. I just didnt want to send it to him in pieces!
Cheers _________________ '82 931 |
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mvde27
Joined: 14 Jan 2024 Posts: 27 Location: Macungie, PA
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Question about TDC for Timing belt replacement.
TDC on the camshaft cover, check!
Not TDC on the oil pump pulley however.
Seen a lot of different opinions and now have to ask.
Do they BOTH need to be TDC?
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Just the Camshaft cover is ok?
If they DO, can you move the oil pump pulley after belt is off to realign?
Cheers. _________________ '82 931 |
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Cedric
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2614 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Are you sure you used the mark at the back of the camshaft pulley? _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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mvde27
Joined: 14 Jan 2024 Posts: 27 Location: Macungie, PA
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Oui _________________ '82 931 |
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peterld
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 947 Location: Noosa Heads QLD Australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Pull # 1 spark plug and stick a plastic (or a recycled organic seaweed/bamboo version, if so inclined) drinking straw in to sit on top of the piston. Now turn the motor over by hand using a socket and bar on the crankshaft pulley.
Get the straw 'on the rock' at TDC and BDC. That is, where the straw is at it's highest point and lowest point. Check your marks on the crankshaft pulley and camshaft pulley. Now you will be able to ascertain whether the timing marks line up. _________________ 80/81 932/8 ROW |
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mvde27
Joined: 14 Jan 2024 Posts: 27 Location: Macungie, PA
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:06 am Post subject: Guidance Needed. |
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Figured out the TDC thank you for the suggestions.
Car is back together.
Water pump and timing belt replaced. Part removed were refreshed or replaced in the reassembly.
Moved on to the coolant part of the assignment. Filled with coolant opened the bleeder screw and now car won't start. uh What?
Key in, Turn once to battery and fuel pump starts, turn again, clicking only.
No electrics were changed or removed. Spark plug was removed for TDC but was replaced same way.
Brothers and Sisters I need your guidance... _________________ '82 931 |
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Fifty50Plus
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 1361 Location: Washington DC area
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Possible low battery charge. Low current draw items will work but starter solenoid wont. Turn on headlights and watch as you try to start the engine. If the headlights dim quite a bit the battery is low. _________________ 1979 924 NA race car
1982 924 NA race car - Sold
1982 924 Turbo almost a PoS
1981 924 Turbo a real PoS, new engine
1982 924 Turbo nice body, blown engine
1972 911 E race car - going to Vintage
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mvde27
Joined: 14 Jan 2024 Posts: 27 Location: Macungie, PA
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:58 am Post subject: |
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I thought that as well.
Actually went as far as jumping it.
Didn’t look at lights though.
Car was finally running prior and now nothing. Crazy car! _________________ '82 931 |
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