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Dutch924-racer
Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 1077 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: Using manual 924s rack on a 924/931 |
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I am thinking of converting my 931 rack to a manual rack from a Europeanen 924s.
Does anybody know if the 924s rack is quicker? _________________ 937 trackday car
Series 2 engine
951S turbo and intercooler
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flosho
Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 3155 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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You have power steering in your 924 Turbo? _________________ [This Space For Rent] |
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Dutch924-racer
Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 1077 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:39 am Post subject: |
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No, but i was hoping the ratio of the S was shorter _________________ 937 trackday car
Series 2 engine
951S turbo and intercooler
Fast road camshaft
Forge recirculation valve + boost controller |
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thirdgenbird
Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 367 Location: Pella, IA USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:44 am Post subject: |
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I can't recall what the ratio is but I think the manual rack has very good feel. _________________ 17in caymans, koni yellow coilovers, hypercoil springs, kla solid upper mounts, 968 sway bars, kla drop links, kla strut brace, fidanza flywheel, dansk catback, wilwood front calipers, ss brake lines, e-codes, 944 duckbill, manual rack,momo steering wheel |
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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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From the Tech Specs booklet:
924 all markets / 931 US+Canada+Japan
Steering ratio: 19.15:1
Turning circle: 10.08 m
Track circle: 9.21 m
Turns, lock to lock: 4.02
931 ROW (option for US+Canada+Japan)
Steering ratio: 22.39:1
Turning circle: 10.3 m
Track circle: 9.5 m
Turns, lock to lock: 4.02
924S/944 manual rack
Steering ratio: 22.39:1
Turns, lock to lock: 3.84-4.02
Turning circle: 10.75 m
Track circle: 10.1 m
924S/944 power rack
Steering ratio: LHD 18.85:1 / RHD 18.96:1
Turns, lock to lock: LHD 3.24 / RHD 3.26 _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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So I don't see any benefit of hassling with the 924S rack if you can find the optional 931 rack. For reference, the 924/931 racks all have the same part numbers, but different suffixes:
478 419 061 C: most common, in all 924/931 except RHD 924, ROW 931, and optioned 931
478 419 061 A: RHD 924
478 419 061 B: optional 931 rack
So if you can find a "B" rack, you'd get the same 22.39 ratio as the manual 924S/944 rack. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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stv951
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 100
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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I am not sure that the 924 and 924S/944 steering racks are interchangeable.
I believe they have different mounting points _________________ Steve
931 81 177 bhp White
931 81 0 bhp engineless Platinum
924S 86 stripped with cage for Track days Red
944 83 Auto Blk
924 84 project 924 CGTS with 951 running gear
944 S2 90 Convertible 3xBlack
951S 91 Vitesse stg 3 350 bhp |
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Raceboy
Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2326 Location: Estonia, Europe
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Dan offers special brackets that let you use 924S/944 steering rack on 924/931 crossmember. _________________ '83 924 2.6 16v Turbo, 470hp
'67 911 2.4S hotrod
'90 944 S2 Cabriolet
'78 924 Carrera GT replica
'84 928 S, sold
'91 944 S2, sold
'82 924S/931 "Gulf", sold
'84 924, turbocharged, sold.
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stv951
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 100
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Is there a way to use 924/931 rack on a 944 ? I have a few of these but no more of the 924S/944 type
Anyone making brackets ? _________________ Steve
931 81 177 bhp White
931 81 0 bhp engineless Platinum
924S 86 stripped with cage for Track days Red
944 83 Auto Blk
924 84 project 924 CGTS with 951 running gear
944 S2 90 Convertible 3xBlack
951S 91 Vitesse stg 3 350 bhp |
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Shurick
Joined: 15 May 2005 Posts: 524 Location: Russia, Moscow.
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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stv951 wrote: | Is there a way to use 924/931 rack on a 944 ? I have a few of these but no more of the 924S/944 type
Anyone making brackets ? |
AFAIK, the internals of manual 944 rack are interchangable with 924/931 rack. _________________ WBR, Shurick
'79 931 -- intercooled K26-3060-6.10 turbo @ 1.2 bar, EFI+EDIS, 951S brakes, stripped interior, 951 look.
'86 924S -- R.I.P.
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stv951
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 100
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Interchangeable ??? Interesting
The thing is that I have installed a 951 engine (with 944 crossmember of course) on a N/A 924 and I dont have a steering rack, but the 924 one. I was wondering if anyone used a 2.0ltr rack with some brackets. _________________ Steve
931 81 177 bhp White
931 81 0 bhp engineless Platinum
924S 86 stripped with cage for Track days Red
944 83 Auto Blk
924 84 project 924 CGTS with 951 running gear
944 S2 90 Convertible 3xBlack
951S 91 Vitesse stg 3 350 bhp |
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Raceboy
Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2326 Location: Estonia, Europe
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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I modified 924/931 steel crossmember to accept 2,5liter engine:
_________________ '83 924 2.6 16v Turbo, 470hp
'67 911 2.4S hotrod
'90 944 S2 Cabriolet
'78 924 Carrera GT replica
'84 928 S, sold
'91 944 S2, sold
'82 924S/931 "Gulf", sold
'84 924, turbocharged, sold.
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Rasta Monsta
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11723 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Wow, did you fab those mounts? Out of what?
FWIW, I have a non leaky power setup I would sell cheap. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Raceboy
Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2326 Location: Estonia, Europe
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:11 am Post subject: |
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The mounts itself are from Lada Niva but if you look closely, the mounts sit on different angles to properly acommodate 2.5liter engine.
The mounts itselves are very rigid, reminding me more of the Vibra Technics mounts that I have on my Gulf. _________________ '83 924 2.6 16v Turbo, 470hp
'67 911 2.4S hotrod
'90 944 S2 Cabriolet
'78 924 Carrera GT replica
'84 928 S, sold
'91 944 S2, sold
'82 924S/931 "Gulf", sold
'84 924, turbocharged, sold.
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stv951
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 100
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Raceboy wrote: | I modified 924/931 steel crossmember to accept 2,5liter engine:
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Hello,
Any downsides ?
CAN I HAVE ONE OF THESE ??? _________________ Steve
931 81 177 bhp White
931 81 0 bhp engineless Platinum
924S 86 stripped with cage for Track days Red
944 83 Auto Blk
924 84 project 924 CGTS with 951 running gear
944 S2 90 Convertible 3xBlack
951S 91 Vitesse stg 3 350 bhp |
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