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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:56 am    Post subject: Welded differential Reply with quote

Has anyone welded the differential on a 924? Is it even possible with our transaxle gearboxes? What's the handling like?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s been done on drift 944’s. Handling will be very sideways
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used welded diff on my Gulf, it was better than Torsen I used before. At least on the tracks I used (faster tracks).
On very narrow ones could be hit or miss: you get better traction out of the corner but may get understeer or little bit of loose rear end.
Understeer will be when you have low power and soft supension, so it is not recommended in those circumstances
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've welded the dif on each (Audi and snailshell boxes) of my 924 race cars as well all of my other race cars over the years. It takes some getting used to with low speed understeer but the high speed oversteer is best for racing.
I've also raced with LSDs and Torsen difs but like the welded the best. No additional heat generated vs the clutch types and no jerkiness like the Torsen.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my diff welded on my 924 race car with Getrag gearbox. Big improvement in the dry - slightly backwards in the wet.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a great idea for street use - the differential was after all invented for a reason. For a track, it will depend, generally useful for large ovals with wide, open corners.

The big negative is that if you have a failure on one side of the diff, such as a broken half-shaft, the car will snap turn you into whatever is next to you faster than you can react. Dangerous.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Equally dangerous both ways. I had a CV joint go on me mid corner whilst still running the open diff and the sudden power cut sent me sideways. I only just managed to avoid riding my self and car out on a concrete wall
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