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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:09 am Post subject: New Product: Ideola's Adjustable Cam Gear |
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We'll start with the pix:
Specifications:
Material: hard anodized aluminum
Weight: 1.6#
Settings: -3°, 0°, +3°
Introductory Pricing:
$245 + shipping
Available to 924board forum members ONLY. Expires midnight 31 May 2016. Pricing after 31 May will be $279 + shipping
10 units available at this time. Any potential for follow up runs will depend greatly on demand.
PM me with your email address for firm shipping quote and PayPal invoice. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Tanso
Joined: 16 Mar 2014 Posts: 81 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Oh no! I just ordered a adjustable cam gear and you have already sent me the weber package!
The gear looks very good and solid! _________________ Our 1983 Porsche 924 project: http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=364034#364034 |
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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Rationale for this design:
According to several folks I consulted, the 924 standard motor responds well to +10 degrees of cam timing. The 924 cam sprocket has 44 teeth, meaning that setting the timing belt "off" by one tooth can offer a way to advance or retard cam timing by 8.2 degrees. With a +/- 3 degree gear, you have the ability to set the cam timing as follows:
-11: gear at -3, belt 1 tooth retarded
-8: gear at 0, belt 1 tooth retarded
-5: gear at -3, belt 1 tooth advanced
-3: gear at -3, belt at TDC
0: gear and belt at TDC
+3: gear at +3, belt at TDC
+5: gear at +3, belt 1 tooth retarded
+8: gear at 0, belt 1 tooth advanced
+11: gear at +3, belt 1 tooth advanced
One of the designs we considered was slotted adjustments, and in fact, I provided a vintage sample gear that was so configured. A slotted setup allows for continuous adjustment, but the engineer we worked with was concerned about slippage. We felt that the range of adjustments described above provided adequate adjustability without the possibility of slippage on the gear, which could be catastrophic on an interference motor. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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uncledoodoo
Joined: 19 Apr 2016 Posts: 28 Location: North Texas
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 9:52 am Post subject: |
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should the timing be advanced as well? Any good article on this tuning? |
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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Here are the basics:
On a head that has been decked, even in a minor amount, "degreeing" the cam allows you to get the cam dialed in precisely for where you want peak power.
Bearing in mind, factory settings are for optimal balance of efficiency-power-reliability, there is opportunity on a performance build to eek out additional power and to fine tune where that power comes in with some simple cam timing tricks that the vernier pulley allows.
In general, advancing the cam timing will result in higher low-RPM torque, but will adversely affect high-RPM HP. Retarding the cam does the opposite: lowers low-RPM torque, but increases high-RPM HP.
So, for practical applications, you might wish to advance your cam timing for peppier street performance. For track applications, you might also want to be able to adjust timing (if rules allow) to put the power band where you want it depending on the venue. More advance is better for tighter lower speed tracks where torque is more important than high-end HP; retarding the timing is better for bigger tracks with long straights where top-end HP is paramount.
There's no way to give a % of power increase because there are way too many variables to take into account. The ideal way to use this as a tuning tool is to put in some dyno time and see how the different settings affect power output.
On a hot street application, just advance the +3 degrees and enjoy a bit more punch on your around-town driving.
{EDIT}
Here's a pretty good article on cam timing 101:
http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/ctrp-0805-camshaft-timing/ _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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morghen
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 8886 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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So this is what you've been up to.
Nice product, will buy one or two when the time comes. _________________ https://www.the924.com |
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oharris
Joined: 06 Oct 2014 Posts: 37 Location: Peyton, CO
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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I like it! Very cool design. _________________ '80 931 |
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JjyKs
Joined: 05 Oct 2015 Posts: 114 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Damn i like the design.
Do you still have these and do you ship to Finland? |
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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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JjyKs wrote: | Damn i like the design.
Do you still have these and do you ship to Finland? |
Yes to both Send me a PM with your email address and I can send you a custom PayPal invoice with correct international shipping. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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JjyKs
Joined: 05 Oct 2015 Posts: 114 Location: Finland
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 3:34 am Post subject: |
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ideola wrote: | JjyKs wrote: | Damn i like the design.
Do you still have these and do you ship to Finland? |
Yes to both Send me a PM with your email address and I can send you a custom PayPal invoice with correct international shipping. |
Will do when I get some information on our salary. Working on a small startup and our investors are a bit tricky sometimes |
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