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the_mad_electrician

Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 1073 Location: Central Georgia
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:58 am Post subject: Is it generally bad when... |
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When a car's frame has been cut off and welded back together that is usually bad right? _________________ 81 924 N/A
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Fifty50Plus

Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 1412 Location: Washington DC area
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:40 am Post subject: |
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I've seen it quite a few times back in the '70s and '80s with 911s and 356s. Front and rear clips welded together to form one good car from two wrecks. Newer insurance and re-titling requirements make it harder for chop shops to get away with it now. _________________ 1979 924 NA race car
1982 924 NA race car - Sold
1982 924 Turbo almost a PoS
1981 924 Turbo a real PoS, new engine
1982 924 Turbo nice body, blown engine
1972 911 E race car - going to Vintage
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the_mad_electrician

Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 1073 Location: Central Georgia
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:55 am Post subject: |
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The 924S I went to look at today had the frame cut right in front of the engine and welded back together. I was highly disappointed. _________________ 81 924 N/A
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fiat22turbo

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:33 am Post subject: |
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It isn't great and can drop the price of the car considerably.
However, if done properly, there's nothing inherently wrong with it. If it is in front of the suspension locating points, then its only mostly cosmetic. Having a bodyshop tech look at it can tell you whether it was done well (posting pictures here might help as well)
The guys that want to build 954's (924 with the 951 drivetrain) use a 951 front clip that requires cutting and welding to the front end. So it has been done without issue, though they usually leave the frame rails alone and replace the core support between the rails.
Ask Rasta about the Miata ChumpCar that he's raced after being wrecked and rebuilt something like 4 times (the final time required a new front clip) _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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the_mad_electrician

Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 1073 Location: Central Georgia
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:08 am Post subject: |
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It was poorly done. I''ll just wait on something else. _________________ 81 924 N/A
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9080 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Dont buy it !
Such repairs have to be done in near factory quality standards for the end result to be acceptable. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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daniel
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Posts: 682 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:04 am Post subject: |
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I have done this with my dad many times, when he does it you can't notice it unless you know exactly where and what to look for. If its obvious, walk away _________________ Over the top of skyline, total brake failure.... hit the wall at over 200 kp/h at the dipper, so anyone who has to brake for the esses is a pussy.
1977.5 Race Car, CAMS Group S Spec
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