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tim_924  



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:28 pm    Post subject: 924 GT Replica rebuild Reply with quote

Hello, I am currently installing a 924 gt replica body kit onto my 924. I was just wandering what people have done about spacing on the axles?

I was looking at spacers to move the wheels out to the correct position of the new body kit as it is alot wider but wasnt sure if this was the best or easiest idea??

What are the pros and cons of doing this? will it affect the drive alot? the spacers that I was looking at buying are made from aircraft grade aluminium and come in at £300 for a set of 4 including postage.

If you need anymore information please ask.

Would be great if someone could help with me this as I want to get her back on the road asap!!!


cheers everyone!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this conversion on a 924 with 4 or five stud hubs? What wheels are you installing?

If you use the correct width wheels with the right offset no spacers are needed. If you use 5 stud hubs and Porsche 7'' or 8'' Fuchs on the rear then there are stock Porsche spacers from 10mm to 30mm which will do the job just fine. The 924 turbo has a stock 21mm spacer which can sell on ebay for £20ish.

If you are using 4 stud hubs the choice out there is endless with VW, Audi, Ford etc. option wheels. But again width and offsets vary and spacer width will vary.

For me Fuchs on a CGT conversion is the only way.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The conversion is 4 stud, i was looking at these wheels http://www.autoalloys.com/16%20Cades%20Eros%20BPL

but i dont think they are offset at all, what size offset would I need to get it right?? I saw these on ebay which are offset and have the same classic look i want.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/17-FORD-SIERRA-COSWORTH-4x4-87-1993-DVD-TX09-RETRO-DEEP-DISH-ALLOY-WHEELS-4x108-/110818018050?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET&hash=item19cd44c302

what do you think of those, have they got the right offset and width to them??

Id love to get some Fuch wheels but they are so expensive!! whats this stock porsche spoiler you are talking about?? :S

cheers for the help !

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i could not find the ET of those wheels...but they say that the wheels fit the VW/Audi...that should have the ET around 38.
i dont remember what the 4lug setup has but i think its ET25.
so to offset these wheels on a narrow body 924 you would need 13mm spacers, to properly offset them i would use 25mm spacers....but thats for the narrow body...the wide body brings the need for an extra 25-35mm spacing...so with the information that i found about these wheels i'd say you are in for 55mm spacers...thats bad just look for some BBS with ET15 and start from there.
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Carrera RSR  



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed the 924 in question is a 1979. Does it have a fuel filler flap or an exposed screw on cap similar to a Mk1 Golf?

If its an early car I'd keep it stock narrow body if it were me. Getting rare and will be worth something some day. A 924S would make a better car for conversion. More power to start with and 5 stud hub set up and more choice of Porsche wheels.

The issue with most modern VW/Audi/Ford wheels is they have ET 36 - 48 ish which will make the wheels sit too far into the arches with the need for huge spacers. You really need a wheel with ET 0 - 15.

The other issue is the large front bearing cap the stock 924 has with getting many wheels centre caps to fit over.

Before you get too far into the build check out http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-924-Turbo-race-car-Unfinished-Project-/110826970325?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19cdcd5cd5#ht_600wt_1378

This one was for sale for a long time I finally went for circa £2700 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-2-5-924-S-CARRERA-GT-BODY-MODIFIED-WHITE-/270821436202?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f0e372b2a#ht_1643wt_1378

Lots of time, work, money involved in getting them done right. Ask away all the questions before the angle grinder comes out. Seen many attempts to do this.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on the 924S idea.
For all the difficulties/reasons stated above, we chose to start with a white 87 924S. The 924S has the same narrow body work as the 924 from the 70's, which is important for getting the right look, but it has all the more modern pick up points for engine, tranny, suspension, and has 5-bolt hubs.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id love to get a 924s but havent got the money and im too far into this project to stop.

The wheels i showed you (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/17-FORD-SIERRA-COSWORTH-4x4-87-1993-DVD-TX09-RETRO-DEEP-DISH-ALLOY-WHEELS-4x108-/110818018050?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET&hash=item19cd44c302) have an offset of 20-45 which sounds better that 15 doesnt it?? would they fill the arches better?? im not really sure about any of this ET stuff!!

the 924 is a 1979 but doesnt have an exposed screw on the filler cap my friend.

With the problem of the large bearing caps was going to be sorted by getting some spacers to allow the caps to sit inside so that the wheels can still have their center caps on.

what do you guys thing about 4-5 stud adaptors?? expensive though!!

cheers everyone, the help is much needed!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just wandering what et i have to aim for, im getting abit confused!! does ET15 mean it will stick out more than an ET35??? Just looking at a few wheels that might be better suited for the job also what J should i go for? eg 7j on the front and 9j on the back or???

cheers for the help again!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OT:
hold on a second is your name really Tim?
i mean...cmon guys...how cool is that...


yes, ET15 will stick out 20mm more than ET35
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yer my name is tim why?? :S ahh ok i get it! ive seen a few wheels here

these ones are two 16x8J ET15 and two 16x9J ET20
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290667709212?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

these ones are two 16x7.5J ET35 and two 9J ET15
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260950357461?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

these ones are two 17x7.5J ET20 and two 17x8J ET45
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110818018050?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

which ones would be best to stick out more?? im guessing its the top two but not sure about how much the J of the wheels affects how far they stick out.

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Carrera RSR  



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite like the 1st option. Whether they fit right and fill/not stick out the arches I cannot guide you 100% I'm afraid but they do seem to be in the right ball park.

CGT wheel specs are Fr 7x16 ET23 R 8x16 ET15

This thread will not give you the answer but may well give you some guidance http://www.porsche924.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9186&hilit=melons

Where are you in Bristol. I'm in WsM. How far deep are you? Any pics?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite like the 1st option. Whether they fit right and fill/not stick out the arches I cannot guide you 100% I'm afraid but they do seem to be in the right ball park.

CGT wheel specs are Fr 7x16 ET23 R 8x16 ET15

This thread will not give you the answer but may well give you some guidance http://www.porsche924.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9186&hilit=melons

Where are you in Bristol. I'm in WsM. How far deep are you? Any pics?

yer the first option look good and are a good price, cheers for that mate il have a look later, ive put the front panels on and done some other minor work, doesnt need that much work doing to it but its getting a nice respray at the end which will be nice. Im a student living in bristol but actually live near weston in a place called loxton?? on the way to axbridge you know it?

cheers mate
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also il put some pics up later aswel
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to ride through Loxton quite often on my way to Cheddar and the Mendips. Haven't been out that way for a while though.

Here's your rear arch 'how to' for you should you need it. Many people cut out the arch without welding it back up properly. This welding is paramount to maintaining a stiff body.

http://www.iribbit.net/i/_files/924cgt_rear_flares_by_hugo_jacobs.pdf
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brilliant cheers for that il have a look, do you know loxton garage?? my dad owns that
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