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ideola
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | Perhaps the 911 crowd would be less aggravating? |
Good point. Actually, the 928 crowd has been the biggest PITA of them all.
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Cedric
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:05 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys, be realistic, hes got a point. On this board I wouldnt even be suprised if it came up a WTB on a used cam belt  ...
dan, how about the stock knob, is it possible?
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Mike9311
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| Cédric wrote: | Hey guys, be realistic, hes got a point. On this board I wouldnt even be suprised if it came up a WTB on a used cam belt ...
dan, how about the stock knob, is it possible? |
WTB on a used cam belt ...
 awesome. I have a few for sale
When you buy one you have to modify it yourself for the stock knob if I read correctly.
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Cedric
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| Mike9311 wrote: | | Cédric wrote: | Hey guys, be realistic, hes got a point. On this board I wouldnt even be suprised if it came up a WTB on a used cam belt ...
dan, how about the stock knob, is it possible? |
WTB on a used cam belt ...
awesome. I have a few for sale
When you buy one you have to modify it yourself for the stock knob if I read correctly. |
Aha, i´ve must have missed that. The gear knob must be the only thing I havent done any work on (until now:)) so I dont really know how its mounted...
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Carrera RSR
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| ideola wrote: |
@Carrera RSR
This lever is only .75" shorter than the stock lever. I had a batch of 24 made, 20 of which are available for sale. When those are gone, we'll see about making more, but there's not much likelihood more will be made before then, nor that there will be variations on the design...it's just not economically feasible to do so. |
What is the comparative distance from the top pivot hole and the top of the stock and short shift? Although the overall length difference is only 16mm, the shaft length above the top pivot looks more like circa 50mm or so shorter.
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Mike9311
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| Cédric wrote: | | Mike9311 wrote: | | Cédric wrote: | Hey guys, be realistic, hes got a point. On this board I wouldnt even be suprised if it came up a WTB on a used cam belt ...
dan, how about the stock knob, is it possible? |
WTB on a used cam belt ...
awesome. I have a few for sale
When you buy one you have to modify it yourself for the stock knob if I read correctly. |
Aha, i´ve must have missed that. The gear knob must be the only thing I havent done any work on (until now:)) so I dont really know how its mounted... |
I am always missing things in threads. 
I believe the first thing I ever did was grind down the shift lever. I was so much younger then and that was many moons ago. I felt like I was modding something back then. 
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ideola
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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I have now added the snailshell short shift kit to my site, and it includes the four plastic bushings.
http://garage.ideola.com/prod-Trans.html
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brealytrent
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I figured instead of starting a new thread, I'd just ask here:
Are the short shift kits for 5-speed audi transmissions workable on the 4-speed ones? I'm pretty positive yes, but I'm not 100%.
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joecitizennn
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| ideola wrote: | 
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Hmm. Reminds me of the shifter that came in my 951. You didnt make this one too did you?
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924-76
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| Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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I just installed one of Dan’s short shifter kits in my 931 project.
Although my car is not running yet, I can say that this thing rocks.
It’s a very nice product, easy to install, fit perfectly and what a difference in the throws, well done.
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GeorgeV
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| Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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I had an interesting experience with this shifter. I had it fitted with no probs. Then had new bushings for the rear coupler and ball socket at the end of the shift lever guide tube fitted (also from Ideola). After that the short shifter would not fit. The top hole was too high. So they just fitted the old shifter. My shifter is no longer sloppy and my throws are shorter too! Anybody else had this experience? Needless to say my short shifter is now for sale.
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ideola
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| Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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I have this short shifter installed in 3 cars with solid brass bushings and new ball cup socket with no issues.
When you say the top hole is too high, can you clarify what issue you're having? It is likely that the adjustment is out on the ball cup socket such that it is causing the shift rod to bind; or, it's also possible that either the shift rod or the guide tube are bent.
The ball cup socket has a stop nut that allows you to adjust the position of the ball cup socket, which effectively changes the length of the guide tube. This is an essential adjustment for getting the angle of the shift lever to be correct since the guide tube is what provides the pivot point for the shifter (and therefore the angle on the shift lever). FSM has a diagram on how to adjust it and what the proper angle of the shift lever should be.
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GeorgeV
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| ideola wrote: | I have this short shifter installed in 3 cars with solid brass bushings and new ball cup socket with no issues.
When you say the top hole is too high, can you clarify what issue you're having? It is likely that the adjustment is out on the ball cup socket such that it is causing the shift rod to bind; or, it's also possible that either the shift rod or the guide tube are bent.
The ball cup socket has a stop nut that allows you to adjust the position of the ball cup socket, which effectively changes the length of the guide tube. This is an essential adjustment for getting the angle of the shift lever to be correct since the guide tube is what provides the pivot point for the shifter (and therefore the angle on the shift lever). FSM has a diagram on how to adjust it and what the proper angle of the shift lever should be. |
I'm relaying what my mechanic told me. The top hole on the short shifter was too high for whatever goes in it (BTW, that's a technical description). Stock shifter fitted fine. It sounds like the ball cup socket needs adjusting. Does the tranny need to be dropped again to adjust the position of the ball cup socket? I have a Workshop Manual, does it have the diagram you speak of? If so, do you know what page? Thanks.
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fiat22turbo
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:14 am Post subject: |
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The ballcup is at the bottom of the shifter.
Pull the shift lever out, loosen the locknut and shorten the rod until just enough to work properly. You might be able to loosen the locknut without removing the shifter, but that depends on your dexterity and available tools.
Once adjusted, tighten the locknut and install permanently.
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Cedric
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:17 am Post subject: |
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My rod was adjusted exactly to specs. But it was still hell of a tight fit against the top "roof" of the trans tunnel. IT actually rubbed against the insulation a bit.
The solution was to put a couple of mm spacer at the front bushing to move it downards a bit. That seemed to do the trick. I have the shifter together with brass bushings, incredible tight shifting feel, but the noise is still a bit annoying.
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