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JayZzzz4
Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 544 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:36 am Post subject: Any solutions for black fading rubber or plastics? |
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My 924 is white and all the black parts (bumper sides, mud flaps, bumper pads, etc..) are fading and looks very bad. Does anyone have any solutions for this problem? Do you think something like Armorall, or tire shine products will work to darken or give a nice deep black look again? I know anything you would do wouldn't last long, but just something to look nice for a few days. _________________ White 1987 Porsche 924S manual |
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emoore924
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2815
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:02 am Post subject: |
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Oh my, there's gonna be a row over this question.
After many, many years of prepping cars for shows, I really like Vinylex. It takes the wax off the black rubber and makes it look brand new. And it actually does last a while -- like all summer. Amazing stuff.
I do not use any of the "off the shelf" products like armourall or STP or that kind of thing.
JMHO. |
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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:29 am Post subject: |
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Two things that I've used that work pretty good are Goof-off and this rubber restoring chemical used to recondition the platens on typewriters (the platen was the black rubber "rolling pin" that the paper wrapped around and against which the typewriter keys would strike). I don't know the name of the latter product, might be able to find out from Larry my Rustang buddy who owned the typewriter repair business. But Goof-off has worked pretty good for me.
_________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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moorepower
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 263 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:30 am Post subject: |
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I use Mothers Back-to-Black with good results.
http://www.mothers.com/02_products/06108.html _________________ Dan.
'88 924S-LE (Luddite Edition)
Manual steering, manual sunroof, manual windows, AC delete, cruise delete, M030 Konis, 25.5mm torsions, 26.8/20 sways |
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BionicBalls
Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 642 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:49 am Post subject: |
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I hear black paint works pretty well. _________________ 1980 924 NA
1982 931 |
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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: |
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BionicBalls wrote: | I hear black paint works pretty well. | If that's the case, you heard wrong. Black paint does not work well at all on rubber trim. In fact, it sucks royally.
I haven't tried that stuff, but Mothers' products are usually pretty darn good. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Smoothie
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Ardex 6224 Speedy Brightener - http://ardexwax.com/Product_Page.html#Dressings
Silicone based (good for rubber). I've used it, and each treatment lasts a long time.
Ran out - I need more. When I had it, I'd apply only once or twice a year.
First found it at a small pro detailing shop 10+ years ago. It took about that long to finish the one bottle. _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox |
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924-76
Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 1475 Location: Ontario, Canada
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tuurbo
Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 1446 Location: East Windsor, New Jersey
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:33 am Post subject: |
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I use the same stuff they use to make tires look black and wet. _________________ 1980 924 turbo, MSD, Meth. Inj, otherwise stock. |
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BionicBalls
Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 642 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | If that's the case, you heard wrong. Black paint does not work well at all on rubber trim. In fact, it sucks royally. |
He said he was painting bumper pads and mud flaps. I'm sorry you are wrong. Black paint with a flex additive will look better and last longer than all these products you all are suggesting. If he were talking about window trim pieces or other pieces that get bent around alot then paint would be a bad idea, but we're not so it is. _________________ 1980 924 NA
1982 931 |
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Smoothie
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Sandblasting works well too. [for rubber] _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox
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weekend_warrior
Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 42 Location: Hayden, Idaho
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject: Son of a Gun works wonders! |
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In terms of plastic parts, I use (and have been really happy with) Son of a Gun by STP. It's nice to know that not only does it restore the luster of that black trim, but it also offers a certain amount of UV protection. Haha, look at me... I'm the Son of a Gun 'poster boy'.
But seriously. If you haven't tried the stuff, get some. That 'Forever Black' product works pretty darn well too. Personally, I stay away from rattle canning, but I've been itching to try that new Fusion plastic paint by Krylon. Anyone had any experience with that stuff?
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1987924s
Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 48 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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There are a lot of items out there, I prefer to use Poor Boys products for detailing....
I avoid off the shelf items from parts stores.
Go to www.autogeek.net you will find a wealth of knowledge and items to chose from... _________________ Scott Martin
1987 924S Red 5spd
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edredas
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 861 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Dura-gloss products are what I recommend...
http://www.duragloss.com/product.asp?pid=280
...of course if you want a better, more permanent fix... BionicBalls is right, you should paint them. The bumperettes and mud flaps are essentially the same plastics that modern cars use as molded bumpers. These plastics are not difficult to paint and are usually painted right along with the car...
However, for you to do this will take the proper prep work... after that, any automotive paint should do the trick since it's flexible and very durable.
The results will be far exceed anything you could ever apply, and will last for years to come. _________________ '84 944 -White, Brown interior
'84 944 -Red, Automatic
'86 944 -Garnet, Fully loaded, Koni suspension
'87 924S -Red, 300hp 951 swap
'87 924S -Red, Project Car
'88 924S -Red, Daily Driver |
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D Hook
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3156 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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edredas wrote: | Dura-gloss products are what I recommend...
http://www.duragloss.com/product.asp?pid=280
...of course if you want a better, more permanent fix... BionicBalls is right, you should paint them. The bumperettes and mud flaps are essentially the same plastics that modern cars use as molded bumpers. These plastics are not difficult to paint and are usually painted right along with the car...
However, for you to do this will take the proper prep work... after that, any automotive paint should do the trick since it's flexible and very durable.
The results will be far exceed anything you could ever apply, and will last for years to come. |
I don't think the bumperettes are plastic. Mine feel like and act like rubber. They wouldn't serve much purpose if they were plastic, I would think. _________________ '80 924 n/a SOLD |
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