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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Grinding Reply with quote

So this has been going on for quite some time now. I own a 79' 924 N/A. The problem is that when I shift into second gear, it will sometimes make a short grind, but still go into the gear. I've never had it grind in 3rd, 4th, or 5th, but 2 seems to hate me. Once in a blue moon, when I shift down into 1st it does this as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm.. Shift linkage issues... worn bushings... tranny flush... bad synchros... clutch... ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snail shell tranny, right? Famous for bad 2nd gear synchro. Try a search on the board for more info. You're not alone.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://img20.imageshack.us/i/file0054a.jpg/

Can you tell from this picture if this is a snailshell?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jakkq wrote:
http://img20.imageshack.us/i/file0054a.jpg/

Can you tell from this picture if this is a snailshell?
If you have an 1979 924 with a 5 speed, you most likely have a Snailshell tranny. You either have bad synchros, or, bad bushings. After awhile (if the synchros go ignored) they will wear out the tranny to a point where it cannot be fixed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jakkq wrote:
http://img20.imageshack.us/i/file0054a.jpg/

Can you tell from this picture if this is a snailshell?


your transmission is in the back under your car. if you crawl under the car and snag a pic of the transmission we'll know for sure whether it's a snailshell or otherwise.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If first gear is down and second up its a snail.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is what it should be, and that is a snailshell (aka- "Getrag").
Here's the sticky topic on their shifting problems - http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=22871

Here's what an Audi gearbox looks like (from the rear-left looking forward) -
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what would be the best way to get to the bushings to check them? I can't just lift up the shifter boot.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all covered in the thread Smoothie indicated above.

All of your questions will be answered here.

Basically, the best way to do it involves dropping the transmission to replace the joints on the shift linkage where it meets the transmission. Some people are able to snake their hands above the transmission while it is in place, but if you're not familiar with what's going on, that may end just being frustrating.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where can I order some new joints to replace? I'd rather have them before I drop the tranny.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not forget the shifter bar and the shifter. Sometimes they oval and you cannot get in the correct gear. Change all of the bushings.
While in the car remove the shifter cover and look inside. Check for loose parts.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That actually may be a problem. I was sitting moving the shifter and it actually hits something before it goes into the second gear which may be causing the grinding?

Also, what loose parts should I be keeping an eye for? And where specifically are the bushing located? Ive never worked with a shifter before.

I'll take a deep excavation when I get home tonight.
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