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Dave Guest
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2001 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Who makes the better performing car Porsche or Ferrari (I think I spelled it right)
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larso Guest
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2001 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| uh see thats the thing, it's all the driver, u could drive the 911 and drive the ferrari and anyone could win. |
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MAS Guest
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2001 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Dave... it really depends on which Porsches and Ferraris you are talking about. In general, dollar for dollar, the 911 Turbo (4 wheel drive) would probably be faster and more flexible than the equivalent Ferrari in the same price range. However if you upped the ante and stacked the 911T against an F-50 then the tables would be turned against Porsche. But then if you upped the Porsche ante...
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Patrick Guest
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2001 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Lars, its all in the driver.
A formula 1 driver in a 924 would be way faster than me in a brand new 996 GT2.
L8ta
Patrick
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Rick MacLaren Guest
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2001 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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It's JUST like baseball...if you want to predict the next hit, hold the driver constant, and then look at the track record of each car company under each track condition...that'll tell you your winner. Statistically, it'll probably be Ferrari.
...sure, it's all in the driver, but that doesn't answer his question, right?
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[ This Message was edited by: Rick MacLaren on 2001-09-05 23:49 ] |
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eturbo924 Guest
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2001 5:18 am Post subject: |
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The "best" is kind of a subjective thing unless you give specific performance measureables. To try to answer your question look at the latest 911 turbo against the latest Ferrari. Not the F50, but the one that is closest to the turbo in price. I think it is the F355 or some thing like that. Car and Driver both tested them head to head a few months back. Guess who won almost all the performance criteria..... Turbo.... guess who won the title of best car.... Ferrari. I almost fell off my chair when I read the article. Ferrari is most costly by like 50K and gets smoked by the turbo.... yet wins. Hmmmm. As the others have said driver is a large part of the equation, but so is personal taste. I would take the Porsche over the Ferrari any day. I can qualify that too since I have driven a few Ferraris in my day. They are exciting, but to hustle down a back road I would take the Carrera 4 or 944 turbo over the same period Ferraris. Just my opinion.
Eric
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Rick MacLaren Guest
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2001 6:05 am Post subject: |
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You're also asking for distinctions between two of the top racing car companies in the world. So measuring at the 'ceiling' of performance is a precise, delicate business. Try asking "Which is best, Ferrari or Kia?" or "Which is best, Porsche or Hyundai?".
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Zuffen
Joined: 31 Jul 2001 Posts: 1427 Location: Owasso, Oklahoma 74055
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2001 7:16 am Post subject: |
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depends whether you prefer bratwurst
or italian sausage, both are good, both will give you gas, and both are about the same price.
Just bite the big weeny and get both.
Now where is the mustard?
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Dave Guest
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2001 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Correct the Driver does play a large role in racing But the driver can only do as good as the car will let him. Get the top driver in F1 and put him in kia and get a average F1 driver and put him in a 944 turbo. The turbo will eat him up. The driver might be great and all but the limitations are already set. So the driver can only be as good as the car will let him be. I dont care about prices I was just woundering If you got the BEST top of the line performance Porsche and The best top of the line Ferarri. Based on the Performance Data from the cars witch would be better???
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Mark CSC Guest
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2001 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Has anybody ever driven a 360 Ferrai and a 996 turbo? Errr ... probably not.
Both cars appeal to different people who like want different things from their cars. They are both very fast and capable cars but "better" depends on what you are looking for in a car. Go and drive both and make your own mind up (saying that they don't normally let you go and just jump in their cars and test drive them.. shame)
Me? I'd have the 360 just for that exhaust note alone Oooooooo.
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AppleBit

Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 1516 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Dave Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2001 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I have driven a 355 spyder and I like it better then my 924S. But thats not really a good comparison.
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larso Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2001 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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what i am saying is, you can't have mario andretti drive a ferrari, and drive a porsche, and tell you which one is better.
He may be skilled with a pendulum effect car, or he may be skilled with a mid engine car.
The driver determines the car, Micheal Schumacher is fastbecause he is a good driver, if he was driving the maclaren benz, he would still win, does that make mercedes better? no but some people may turn faster times in a benz than a ferrari, and vice versa, so nana-nana- naaaaaaaa-na. |
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kaffine krazed Guest
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2001 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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The 2003 Bugatti(sp). The first production car to have more than 1000HP.
I would rather have a new Ferrari over a new Porsche but would rather have the Bugatti.
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Dave Guest
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2001 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Larso my point is that The car sets the limitations for the driver. So the driver can only be as good as the car will let him be. If you read my other statment I show a perfect example of that. SO since everyone is so troubled on giving a simple answere lets try to break it down and setup test. Lets make up a driver. He will be perfect in driveing any type of car and be skilled in every type of racing. He is The superman of racing anyhing any where. Then we put him in the top of the line Ferrari and run the car threw the tests. 0-100-0, skid pad, 0-60, braking, slalom, top speed, ect. Then collect the data. Then we put him in a top of the line Porsche(remeber $$$ doesnt matter) and run the same test in the same conditions as the other test. And then we collect the data. Based of the performance data Which car would be better. Now remeber Since the driver has no limitations because he is a Super racer and the only limitaions would be based on what the car couldnt do. What car would out perform the other?? I know the cars arent the same so one will be better at something then the other. SO who is better???
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