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Rich H  



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can put my car into the 'retired' bracket. It's not going anywhere... To be replaced (Hopefully) with a 932 which will get EFi!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flosho wrote:
Haha.. Thanks for the update dan.

How many of them are actually running/driving/etc.. vs just in progress. Or how many of the progress ones, have completed? I know a few of these guys have sold their cars/given up.


Don't even get me started!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My white 1983 924 NA was running VEMS from 2006 to 2007 before turbocharging.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it much depends on what you want to do with the car and what is the initial condition of the car....i for one, want to drive it and enjoy it...Martjinus for example enjoys the car by working on it...i had the luck to find very good condition cars so CIS works and DITCh works...so all is left for me is drive it.

Rich...if you like fidling more than driving..then throw out the CIS and DITC from that S2...but if it works and you prefer driving...then dont swap that stuff on it.
The turbocharged system is a much more complicated one compared to the NA....i hope you dont live under the ilusion that the EFI and all that stuff from your NA will just bolt on to the turbo...first thing that comes in mind is that the fuel-rail wont fit because of the chargetube...then its on to the tables...missing sensors..bla bla bla...lots of trial and error.

i've made a very effective intercooler for my 924...and recently installed a 1.0 bar spring...even tho the boost only rises to 0.7 i am more than happy with the car's performance...i'm sure that when i'll have that extra 0.3 bar i'll be in nirvana

oh..and the car will work...everyday...anytime...anywhere.
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Rich H  



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morgen: No worries there, I'm under no illusions! I'll keep the kit to one side while I enjoy the car, then maybe a winter project.... Intercooling seems the most effective option...

I'll collect bits as I go like I did before. My last install didn't take long. Might even fit bits as I go I can fit the crank sender, trigger wheels and a few other bits.

But I'm getting over excited - I haven't even seen the car I want yet, only pics!
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931 twinturbo  



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey John H

How many horses does your 924 turbo have with the Haltech E6k Ecu??? Have the same system soon on my 931 twinturbo...
Have you done anything else with your engine??
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich H wrote:
You can put my car into the 'retired' bracket. It's not going anywhere... To be replaced (Hopefully) with a 932 which will get EFi!


My EFI'd N/A is dead - long live the Turbo...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

931 twinturbo wrote:
Hey John H

How many horses does your 924 turbo have with the Haltech E6k Ecu??? Have the same system soon on my 931 twinturbo...
Have you done anything else with your engine??


No idea as I never ran it on the dyno before or after, I did have problems with the ignition pickup, which should be solved on the next version which runs an aluminium front pulley.
As for mods to the engine nothing major, since 1985 when it had forged KS piston’s fitted and a new head gasket in 2004.

However I’ve removed the Haltech and gone back to the Bosch CIS and the DITC. Not because it didn’t work but to put it on my race engine which is a lot more modified.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any updates one way or another in this thread? Anyone have logs or ignition/fuel maps to post?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geez lots of guys here have ms sounds like a disease. Hope you all pull through man.

Happy b-day flosho

ideola wrote:
Some more to add to the list:

Martijnus: 81 ROW NA (MS in process; see this thread)
Rich H: 80 ROW NA (MS; see this thread)
etiennekuh: ??? (MS in process? see [http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=29366]here[/url] and here)
xpernet: 77 NA (MS; see this thread)
pocketscience: 81 ROW NA (MS in process: see this thread)
Scorpio: (MS in process)
-nick: 80 931 (MS; see this thread; also note that Nick has sold this car to another board member, but can't remember who it is at the moment)
endwrench: 79 NA Supercharged (MS; see this thread)
vemser: ??? (VEMS; see this thread)
Racing: ??? (VEMS; see this thread)
MikeDanger: 931 (Eclipse EFI in process; see this thread)
crazyinkc: 931 (MS; see this thread)
leadfoot: 81 924 NA Supercharged (Wolf EFI; see this thread)
AppleBit: 924 NA (Electromotive; see this thread; since removed in favor of a V8 swap)
Petrovich: 82 931 (MS; see this thread)
Darin81T: 81 931 (MS; see this thread)
Kojab: ROW 924 NA Supercharged (GM EFI; see this thread, and also his home page.)
merruse: ROW NA (MS in process; see this thread)
Insane: ROW 924 NA (Russina J5.1 in process; see this thread)
huckster: ??? (MS in process; see this thread)
fiat22turbo: 79 NA (MS in process????? see this thread)
Cbass: 79 NA (MS in process????? see this thread)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I updated that initial post with the ones Dan posted.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far my engine is on an engine stand...Ive read through megamanual 2- 3 times...read through the turbocharging pages of megamanual(21 pages) 2-3 times....had a look through spark and fuel curves from min flosho and nik.....read through info from DIYAUTOTUNE and msefi forum....and still feel like i dont know where to start

p.s megajolt light jnr, ms1, EDIS, FIDLE and throttle body off large Ford, 951 intercooler, BAE manifold, 36:1 trigger wheel ..T25 turbo (hoping for a T25G or T28) soon

Reading EFI procedure is a headache
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine in the car first Git it installed neat and tidy adn test everythign in isolation where possible.

I just followed the getting it start guide on Megamanal.com once it's running it's much easier to understand.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1981 931 with weber throttles running Dicktator ECU
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lenkru wrote:
1981 931 with weber throttles running Dicktator ECU


NEED MORE PIX

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