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Cone_Eater

Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Marshfield, MO
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: Whats involved in Turboing an NA? |
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I am wondering what all is involved in taking a NA and converting it to a turbo? I have an 88 924S and a Subaru STI turbo. I want to put them together. I plan on doing this in 4 months or less. Does anyone have a good write-up of this procedure? _________________ 1988 924S: Koni fully adjustables, Short shift kit, head work, exhaust, K&N, Jacobs ignition, Larger Injectors, Performance Chip, 928 wheels with cooper Zeon tires, Momo interior, Etc.....
If its fast enough to go... its fast enough to blow. |
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StienbargerR
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 1362 Location: Richmond, IN
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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well
obviously for starters you would need to have someone build you a custom exhaust manifold which will accomadate the sti turbo. Also you will need some kind of stand alone fuel and probably igntition setup. And I will leave it to the turbo guys to fill in the rest for you. But seems like it's alot of work and money. It would be more cost effective just to buy a 951 or 931.
Ryan _________________ 1978 924 NA
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Cone_Eater

Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Marshfield, MO
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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I am not worried about the cost!
I am a 17 year old with no bills and a VERY good job. I thought about using some of the parts off a 944 of the same year. What do you guys think? _________________ 1988 924S: Koni fully adjustables, Short shift kit, head work, exhaust, K&N, Jacobs ignition, Larger Injectors, Performance Chip, 928 wheels with cooper Zeon tires, Momo interior, Etc.....
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Search _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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leadfoot

Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 2222 Location: gOLD cOAST Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Without knowing your skills I would say take it too a shop and have them do it then.
Leadfoot _________________ 1981 ROW 924 Turbo -
carbon fiber GT mish mash
LS1 conversion in progress... |
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9073 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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If you have no bills and the paycheck - then sell it, buy a 944 Turbo, and spend your time and extra money modifying that. The end result will be better. You'll spend so much time trying to redo what the factory already figured out. I doubt the STi turbo is even that well suited to the 2.5L motor.
Consider a different engine swap; the 968 3.0L motor has been done, into the 924S, and seems like an excellent upgrade. I may someday do one myself, to one of my turbos.
Other ways to waste your money? Well, you could always go racing. Or try doing something different. A coworker of mine is finishing up the install of an STi drivetrain into a 914 2.0L! RWD, of course, but otherwise complete. _________________ Vaughan Scott
Webmeister
'79 924 #77 SCCA H Prod racecar
'82 931 Plat. Silver
#25 Hidari Firefly P2 sports prototype |
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:06 am Post subject: |
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OT: wow..that will be something to see going...914 2.0L AWD.
Yea...if you dont have bills buy a 944 Turbo S and you will be more than satisfied !!
That is the ultimate 924 (except the 968 Turbo )
and....for lunch the porsche 944 turbo generaly prefers ferraris altough it is known ocasionaly to snack on corvettes..  _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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Cone_Eater

Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Marshfield, MO
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:41 am Post subject: |
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I am attached to the car and don't want to just get another one.
I have a fair amount of skills (just none in drivetrain).
I can do basically what ever I want.
Can 944T intake and exhaust parts be used to make a 924S-T?
Renegade hybrids does the 914 2.0 STI. They have some cool videos of what one do. _________________ 1988 924S: Koni fully adjustables, Short shift kit, head work, exhaust, K&N, Jacobs ignition, Larger Injectors, Performance Chip, 928 wheels with cooper Zeon tires, Momo interior, Etc.....
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-nick

Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Just to reiterate...
_________________ 1980 931S
15psi boost, MS-II, EDIS, 951 IC, custom intake, Ford 5.0L throttle body, Forge BOV, WB o2, G31 w/LSD, 964 wheels, 968 rear sway, Bilsteins, 200# Welt. springs. A laptop, and a partridge in a pear tree.
1991 964 C4 Cabriolet |
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Keaton
Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 261 Location: 85202
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| morghen wrote: | | and....for lunch the porsche 944 turbo generaly prefers ferraris altough it is known ocasionaly to snack on corvettes.. | were is the purple haze to go with it?
| Cone_Eater wrote: | I am attached to the car and don't want to just get another one.
I have a fair amount of skills (just none in drivetrain).
I can do basically what ever I want.
Can 944T intake and exhaust parts be used to make a 924S-T?
Renegade hybrids does the 914 2.0 STI. They have some cool videos of what one do. |
S-T?? the "S" is just a detuned 944 motor in a 924 body. i think it would just be custom.
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=22613 Parts wanted/Parts for sale
then go stand alone with megasquirt |
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| Cone_Eater wrote: | I am attached to the car and don't want to just get another one.
I have a fair amount of skills (just none in drivetrain).
I can do basically what ever I want.
Can 944T intake and exhaust parts be used to make a 924S-T?
Renegade hybrids does the 914 2.0 STI. They have some cool videos of what one do. |
well i was like you too...i was very atatched to the car..and started investing...by now i realise that its soooooo far from stock...and i have many mods...but its still not as good as a factory more expensive unit..or a newer car....so basicaly what i'm telling you is that its not worth the work...just drive....thats all i want now after 3-4 years of work and investment...and i cant do that because i still have to work and invest to get it near the factory thing. I have a 924 at Carrera GT specs...soon to be finished i hope.
I have skills too...i'm an engineer..but i dont care..i want to drive..i'm done wrenching !....maby you should take this advice.
well i guess that you could do a stupid thing like buying a 944 turbo and mounting all sorts of parts from it onto the 924...but...hey...thats crazy...right? _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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Cone_Eater

Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Marshfield, MO
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the interest.
I am new at this and not sure how to say this but here it goes:
I bought this car because it is beautiful and different. It is the only one in my town and I want to add more power. I don't know what to do but I have a lot of people that want to help and I work at a parts store. I have money to spend on the car and want more power. I don't want to just buy a fast car.
It is one thing to just buy a fast car, and another to build it!!!!!
Is there a kit out there or does this mean three months of the car setting in a garage while every little piece is made? _________________ 1988 924S: Koni fully adjustables, Short shift kit, head work, exhaust, K&N, Jacobs ignition, Larger Injectors, Performance Chip, 928 wheels with cooper Zeon tires, Momo interior, Etc.....
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Min

Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 2368 Location: Vernon, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Cone_Eater wrote: | Thanks for the interest.
I am new at this and not sure how to say this but here it goes:
I bought this car because it is beautiful and different. It is the only one in my town and I want to add more power. I don't know what to do but I have a lot of people that want to help and I work at a parts store. I have money to spend on the car and want more power. I don't want to just buy a fast car.
It is one thing to just buy a fast car, and another to build it!!!!!
Is there a kit out there or does this mean three months of the car setting in a garage while every little piece is made? |
How much of the fabrication will you do yourself? ... how much will you pay someone to do for you?
Personally, if I was in your position, I wouldn't even start on this project until I had at least 8 grand sitting in a bank account dedicated to it. Then I'd also do my best to become friends with a few people who own large machines that can make you pretty goodies. Such as milling machines, and tig welders.
6 months in the garage at the minimum. Depending on how you go about it, but that would be my estimate. You could do it in stages, do some aftermarket EFI first, get that all working properly, move to the next item on the list. A good turbocharger is going to cost you probably in the range of 1200 dollars ish just for the turbo itself, depending what you buy. I'd recommend you purchase corky bells book 'maximum boost' before making any major decisions.
Min _________________ Custom means it didn't come from a box.
1980 n/a with EDIS and Megasquirt II Injection. 7 different colors and counting. |
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Cone_Eater

Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Marshfield, MO
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| $8000? How? At that much I can build a motor that will snap the speedo in 9 secounds flat. For 8 grand what kind off power am I gona be looking at? |
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steeny
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 319 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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remember your not dealing with a lot of bolt on parts here for a ford or GMC engine. everything you need will basically have to be custom built. As for possible horsepower, who knows, but if you want cheap horses go buy a chariot. _________________ 1978 924 N/A
she's gone..... |
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