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cegan09  



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Steering... Reply with quote

Ok, so i'm to the point where i can pull my engine out of my 87 924S. However there are two things blocking me. I can't seem to get the steering arm out of the drivers side wheel, and the universal joint won't come off the pin or whatever it is that it attaches to just by the cross member. The steering arm practically fell out of the passenger side wheel, but i can't for the life of me get it out of the drivers side. The cotter pin and nut are off.

As for the universal join, i've pulled the bolt that clamps it down, and tried to wedge the slit open a bit. It still won't pull off though.

My question si does anyone have any tricks or suggestions to getting these out? Once this is done i have the cross member off and i can pull the engine off the torque tube and out of the car.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes some penetrating oil over night and a few judicious taps with a hammer will loosen things up. Be careful of the threads.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so no other suggestions besides some penetrating fluid and a hammer? (both of which i've tried)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

penetrating fluid, a hammer and persistence...?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: Steering... Reply with quote

cegan09 wrote:
The steering arm practically fell out of the passenger side wheel, but i can't for the life of me get it out of the drivers side. The cotter pin and nut are off.

Talking tie rod ends here, right? Mine wouldn't budge until I went at it with an air hammer with fork attachment - used that and with the other hand a regular hammer to hit down on it. -But I was replacing them, not reusing. It still took a while even with the air hammer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used a heavy hammer and whacked the crap out of them from the thread side. But I also was replacing when I did it. A ball joint fork might work well enough to be able to reuse them. If they're original though, why not just replace? They're pretty cheap. I'd be suspect of the one that just fell out anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you plan on reusing the steering knuckle ball joint, then don't touch the ball joint nor down neither thread side. Instead hammer the mounting arm from the side and it will come off.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used a gear puller on my stubborn side.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raceboy wrote:
If you plan on reusing the steering knuckle ball joint, then don't touch the ball joint nor down neither thread side. Instead hammer the mounting arm from the side and it will come off.


Raceboy is correct. Put some pressure on the tierod with a prybar then give the arm a good wack with a hammer. Get someone else to pry while you hammer.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have tried every combination of hammering, prying, soaking there is. Only thing i haven't tried is a gear puller. I'll attempt that then i get home.

Any suggestions for the universal joint that sits just above the cross member. I need to get it off the rack and pinion assembly so i can drop all that steering stuff.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the steering knuckle, i used an old screwdriver and pounded it into the slot to open it up it a bit, while pulling down on the rack (after unbolting.) took a bit, but came off with some effort. dont damage the splines or split the clamp...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the steering U joint, one must remove the bolt completely, then loosen the rack from the cross member, and the U joint will usually pull right off of the steering shaft as the rack is lowered.

On the tie rod end, get two ball pein hammers and bang the sides of the steering arm, the tie rod end will pop out. If not, heat it then hammer again.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Paul said with the U joint. The bolt sits in a groove and must be removed first. A large flat screwdriver used to open the clamped section slightly helps.

I have used a hot air gun to heat the steering arm from the nut side with a damp rag around the joint rubber. This expands the tapered hole just enough to loosen the tight fit. Use a plain nut if you have one on the stub and hit it hard square on the end. I use a copper mallet here as I have one. Suggest a heavy dolly (steel block) on the arm to prevent any further damage if it needs much bashing. But it DOES eventually separate!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the suggestions. I still haven't gotten them off, but i have a few more ideas. Hopefully its off tonight.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cegan09 wrote:
so no other suggestions besides some penetrating fluid and a hammer? (both of which i've tried)


Bigger hammer?

Fire wrench?
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