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augidog
Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 1360 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: Motor mount replacement |
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Right mount –Passenger side US version
Additional notes:
Remove rubber cover from the top the fuel sending unit before raising or lowering engine.
Clutch cable adjustment may be needed after installation.
The front muffler hanger may need adjustment replacement from the engine's new location.
I hope this saves you some time.
I will edit in any ideas or tricks you guys may have.
Quote: | Time needed 1 ˝ hour or less with no rusty bolts
Tools needed:
· Metric sockets 17,19
· Extension 12” or any combo to get the height.
· 7mm Allen wrench -a socket does not have enough clearance to work (double check you have this odd size. My set did not have it!)
· Breaker bar or pipe to fit over socket wrench.(leverage)
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-Ramp the car front. (I personally don’t trust stands)
-Disconnect the battery.
-Using a 2x4 wood block, place a jack under the oil pan. (Just support the engine and be wary of the fins.)
-keep an eye on the boot that covers the fuel metering plate,I raised or lowered mine loose.
- Raise the motor slightly to take pressure off the top bolts.
-Breaks loose the top mount nuts with the extension. (Loosen don’t remove yet.)
-Remove the starter heat shields.
-Break and remove the lower bolt. (This will require the breaker or a leverage pipe.)
- Drop the starter. (Just lower the starter out of the way no need to remove the wires. but I did not have OEM wiring.)
-You should now be able to access the Allen bolts that hold the mount to the engine. Remove both with the 7mm Allen –(mine loosened 1st try by hand)
-Remove the mounting arm with mount.
-Remove the old mount.
-Test fit the new upper mount bolts through the upper mount holes (my new mount needed to be spaced a little farther out with a hammer tap to go in smoothly.)
-Install the new mount in the arm off the car and tighten the lower bolt. (Hand tight then ˝ to ľ turn)
-Install the mount arm on the engine.
-While slowly jacking the engine, angle the upper mount bolts into their holes (guide with a long screwdriver. They will not go all the way in and will be shy for the nut and washer)
-Go above the car and lift the engine using a bar between the block and the strut mount. (It will lift easily don’t crush anything)
-Start both nuts this way and then tighten.
-Put everything else back in.
Left mount –Passenger side US version
I hope this saves you some time.
I will edit in any ideas or tricks you guys may have.
Quote: | [i]Time needed 45 min or less with no rusty bolts
Tools needed:
· Metric sockets 17,19,14
· Extension 12” or any combo to get the height.
· Swivel adapter (important)
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Notice the sagging rubber in the old mount.
-Ramp the car front. )-Using a 2x4 wood block, place a jack under the oil pan. (Just support the engine and be wary of the fins.)
-keep an eye on the boot that covers the fuel metering plate,I raised or lowered mine loose.
- Raise the motor slightly to take pressure off the top bolts.
-Break and remove the top mount nuts with the extension. (You will need the swivel to reach them)
-Remove the dipstick.
-Remove the intake manifold support, (3 bolts)
-Remove the 2 bolts holding the hard radiator pipe that goes to the back of the engine (one is the top motor mount bolt to the engine block)
-Remove the 2 lower mount bolts to the engine block
-Lower the engine.
-Slide the mount and arm down (you may have to raise the hard pipe slightly to remove it)
-Remove the mounting arm with mount going toward the engine front.
-Remove the old mount.
-There is a reason why the mount has a bevel on the bottom. the bevel accounts for the underside of the left mount otherwise it will not sit flat.(there was a homemade spacer on my old mount.)
-Install the new mount in the arm off the car and tighten the lower bolt(spray the bottom rubber with silicone so it can be adjusted/turned slightly later without ruining the rubber. (Hand tight then ˝ to ľ turn or you will be fighting to tighten this bolt on the car if its too loose.)
-Install the mount arm on the engine. Slide it back up and under the hard pipe (this was the most difficult. you may have to raise the pipe again slightly)
-Start the upper engine mount arm bolt then do the lowers
-Check the position of the mount.
-While slowly jacking the engine, angle the upper mount bolts into their holes
-Start both nuts this way and then tighten.
-Put everything else back in _________________ 1978 924 95 mile daily driver.
Audi TB/POR174M/High Flow Cat/2.25" exhaust
I knew that positive thinking thing wouldn't work.
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Rasta Monsta
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11724 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome, man, thanks! _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Peter_in_AU
Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 2743 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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that's great! I always thought it would be harder that that.
Thanks. _________________ 1979 924 (Gone to a better place)
1974 Lotus 7 S4 "Big Valve" Twin-cam (waiting)
1982 924 (As featured on Wikipedia)
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Ozzie
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Try doing it with a steering shaft in the way. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
Engineer of Electro/Mechanical Systems Maintenance |
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Rasta Monsta
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11724 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Oz, should we call you a waaahmbulance?
_________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Ozzie
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: |
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No need.
Done my mounts a year ago and it was difficult on the exhaust side.
The steering shaft adds to the degree of skin removal. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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steeny
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 319 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:20 am Post subject: |
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i was thinking the same thing ozzie. i recently replaced my starter motor, and the line
-Remove the starter heat shields.
sounds easy, but it took me at least an hour and a half. one of the bolts is obscured by manifold heat shielding and the steering shaft doesnt help either, and in general, anywhere on that side of the engine is a bitch to get to.
but otherwise it looks easy enough. _________________ 1978 924 N/A
she's gone..... |
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Rasta Monsta
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11724 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Anyone done this on the exhaust side of a 931? I just laid under there for a while, and it looks nigh impossible with the engine in the car. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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mehall
Joined: 15 Dec 2008 Posts: 191 Location: Richmond, MO
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:09 am Post subject: |
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It's 3 years later, and the photos are no longer hosted is the same place. Any chance of relocating the Images - Preferably in a more permanent server? _________________ Mark
'87 White 924s manual
'94 Lexus LS400
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tyfighter123
Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Posts: 551 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Any word on the pictures? _________________ Porsche 924 1977 N/A
Mustang GT/CS 2007
Porsche 924S 1987 (parts car)(cut up and recycled)
Porsche 911S 1976
Porsche 931 1980
Porsche 931 1980 (parts car) |
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Joes924Racer
Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:58 am Post subject: |
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Pics would make the day. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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DentalFlossTycoon
Joined: 27 Nov 2016 Posts: 38 Location: Bozeman, MT
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:01 am Post subject: Exhaust manifold/starter heat shield |
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Can anyone give me a tip for removing the heat shield between the exhaust manifold and starter (LHD 2.0 NA)? I’m stumped and can’t get to the passenger side engine mounts without moving this thing out of the way. |
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DentalFlossTycoon
Joined: 27 Nov 2016 Posts: 38 Location: Bozeman, MT
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust manifold/starter heat shield |
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DentalFlossTycoon wrote: | Can anyone give me a tip for removing the heat shield between the exhaust manifold and starter (LHD 2.0 NA)? I’m stumped and can’t get to the passenger side engine mounts without moving this thing out of the way. |
I was able to get that heat shield top bolt (below the manifold and almost totally invisible) out—using a crow-foot wrench and a lot of four-letter words. It’s also worth noting that the oil filter gets in the way of pulling out the starter gearbox. After draining the (freshly changed) oil from the car, I was able to get to the mounting arm’s allen mounting bolts. They’re 8mm, and clearance for the front one is challenging. Now I can’t seem to get the mounting arm and mount out of the car, even though the mounting arm bolts are out, and I’ve pulled the top nuts from actual motor mount. So far, this job has been an ugly beast, and I’m not even done taking things apart. |
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DentalFlossTycoon
Joined: 27 Nov 2016 Posts: 38 Location: Bozeman, MT
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust manifold/starter heat shield |
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I was able to get that heat shield top bolt (below the manifold and almost totally invisible) out—using a crow-foot wrench and a lot of four-letter words. It’s also worth noting that the oil filter gets in the way of pulling out the starter gearbox. After draining the (freshly changed) oil from the car, I was able to get to the mounting arm’s allen mounting bolts. They’re 8mm, and clearance for the front one is challenging. Now I can’t seem to get the mounting arm and mount out of the car, even though the mounting arm bolts are out, and I’ve pulled the top nuts from actual motor mount. So far, this job has been an ugly beast, and I’m not even done taking things apart.[/quote]
Note that there are three 8mm Allen bolts that hold the iron mounting arm on the exhaust side of the engine. The top one cannot be seen, only felt. |
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!tom
Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1934 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm. I swapped both motor mounts years ago and don't remember it being anything special.
Maybe try from the bottom instead of the top? _________________ 78 924 NA
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