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[martin924]

Hello, well i have managed it! thanks to help from people on here and Nottingham Porsche center,
1. release rear seat upper by the two buttons.
2. find the top edge of the lower seat and start peeling it towards the rear of the car, when you come to the metal clips keep carefully pulling and they come away.
3. the lower seat is glued in to place and it seems to be stitched along where it meets the catpet, i left this still attached, start from the top of the seat, and slowlypeel the seat out so its only connected to the carpet.
4. you can now easly see the ready threaded holes in the car shell and a cut away on the inside of the leather trim, and them take a deep breath and work a small sharp pointy thing straight through, same on the other side.
5. leaving the seat in this position, peel back the quarter cloth trim and same again with the pointy sharp thing,
6. apply carpet spray glue to the metal car shell and push it all back together then straight away get your bolts in before the glue sets in case you need to move the seat slightly. refit the metal retaining clips to the upper of the lower section.
7, Now tell the wife that german cars esp Porsches are so strong and safe its the perfect SAFE family car..

I know its all a bit obvious but it might save someone a bit of time

[Peter_in_AU]

This should go in the How-To section. Did you take any pics?
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[Slam]

8. Stick rear seat back down again using liberal amounts of carpet adhesive and get hands covered in the stuff so everything you touch - tools, door handles, car keys, windows, CDs, etc. sticks to you.

My wife put rear belts in her 924 just the way you describe but she took out EVERYTHING to dye, paint and fiddle. Then got mad and plunged a screwdriver through the seat right where the blind nuts for the belts are. She has her ways...
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[doomer77]

why would you want belts there anyway?
dont tell me somebody has to sit back there
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[Stu2j]

When I first got my 924 (way back when), I was notified that the car was subject to a recall. The recall was for the rear seatbelts and thus the Porsche dealer installed them for me for free.

It would seem most US cars should have the rear belts unless the recall was ignored.
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[berkman007]

Has anyone put 3 point seat belts in the rear? Mine has lap belts but the wife won't let the kids ride with me until I get 3pt belts back there.
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[Min]

[Carrera]

[Min]

[ideola]

Take a look at illustration 812-00 in PET. It specifies a rear three-point seat belt for the Australian and Norway markets. The part number for the belt itself is 478.857.811.A. There are a few other AUS-specific parts for fastening it to the chassis, but the shortie buckle piece appears to be the standard issue item. You could probably source one of these from someone who is breaking a 924 or early 944 down under.
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[Carrera]

Thanks for the tips guys!

I'll have to check from down under if there are any belts on the market

I suppose all cars have the 3rd point bolt hole hidden under the plug... even 1981 models?

Strangely enough I popped into one early 944 here in Finland a few years back that also had 3-point belts in the back that seemed to be original but they were static belts
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[ideola]

In fact, PET reveals that there were both fixed and "automatic" belts available for all three versions (front 3-point, rear lap belt, and rear 3-point). By automatic, I think they are referring to the belt retractor device, at least judging by the diagrams. The part number I referenced is a fixed or static belt...
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[Carrera]

[Min]

Mine are 'fixed' I just tension them after the kid is installed.

Min
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[john h]

Isupplied the belts to Min and they came out of one of my old cars.

If you want the interia reel type you have two options (both expensive)

One is to find a late model 944/ 968 at a junk yard and cut out the mounting bracket which fits half way along the back fender and runs between the wheel arch and the window frame, then weld this into your car or if your not a good welder get a shop to do it. Remember to grind back all surfaces to remove the zinc coating as it will weaken the weld and the fumes given off when you weld are not good for your health. (I've just done this to my GT replica). In New Zealand whether you can physically use the seats or not you have to have seat belts for all seats if the car is newer than 1981.


The second option is to find some interia reel belts that mount flat and then bolt these to the floor behind the seats - however to be safe you will need to strengthen the the floor. I mounted my racing harness this way but we ran a substantial steel angle below the floor and then this inturn was welded and bolted to the cross frame that the fuel tank (and in non dogleg car) the gearbox hangs off.

All the cars should have mounting holes in them. i've yet to find one without them. The last car I wrecked forr parts was a 1978 (ex USA) and that had mounting brackets for rear belts.
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