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Got Edis? whats your advance table look like?
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Min  



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:32 pm    Post subject: Got Edis? whats your advance table look like? Reply with quote

I just got my edis advance table tuned a bit today. I'm curious what other people who've gotten their edis systems working are running.



And for those of you interested, here's a datalog.

http://members.shaw.ca/melon924/datalog200604280241.xls

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty close to mine but you are a little more aggresive below 2000rpm than I am. I am going to wait till I get some sort of knock detection before I tune further. If you still interested I will try to post what I have.

I take it you have gone MS. Are you injected yet?

Todd
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endwrench wrote:
That's pretty close to mine but you are a little more aggresive below 2000rpm than I am. I am going to wait till I get some sort of knock detection before I tune further. If you still interested I will try to post what I have.

I take it you have gone MS. Are you injected yet?


I'm definately interested in what your running. I havn't got injection going yet I wanted to get the EDIS going and tuned properly before doing fuel. And I still have to install the tps on my throttlebody, just have to finish the mounting bracket. I've been running EDIS only for a couple weeks now.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, i am totally confused. what is that for? whats it do?
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Min  



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIS = Electronic Distributorless Ignition System. It means people running it don't have a distributor anymore, and they are able to map the ignition advance in a table like what I posted in my first post.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, when do we get the how-to or at least some nice pictures to motivate other guys?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter_in_AU wrote:
So, when do we get the how-to or at least some nice pictures to motivate other guys?


I suppose I could post some pictures of what I did. Didn't really think anyone would be interested honestly. I'll pull the car into the garage tonight and take some.

Min


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is an older map I have. I am boosted so it will be a little more compact than yours plus I am running MJLJ wich only supports 10x10 tables instead of the 12x12 that MSnS uses. I have actually pulled back some of my timing above 3000 rpm on my newest maps and have spread them out to 200kpa for anticipated boost at a later date. I fully realize these are quite conservitive numbers but I feel I can tweak these later if I feel I need more power or fuel milage.



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

endwrench wrote:
Here is an older map I have. I am boosted so it will be a little more compact than yours plus I am running MJLJ wich only supports 10x10 tables instead of the 12x12 that MSnS uses. I have actually pulled back some of my timing above 3000 rpm on my newest maps and have spread them out to 200kpa for anticipated boost at a later date. I fully realize these are quite conservitive numbers but I feel I can tweak these later if I feel I need more power or fuel milage.


I'm actually running a megasquirt II with v3.0 mainboard, which supports 12x12 for spark and fuel maps. The map I posted is pretty much a copy/paste from a excel spreadsheet someone posted on the megasquirt forum for determining a good 'starting' map. So its interesting to see what your running, did you notice any problems running 39 degree's advanced? I tried a map running 32 degree's advanced at 100kpa and slowly upped it to 34, I havn't tried anything higher than that yet. Was being cautious.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run 35-40 kpa at cruise and only 85kpa key-on engine-off. I am at 3500feet elevation. Looking at my map again it looks a little screwy. I know before I boosted I was running 38 advance at 3000 rpm with no noticable problems even with the higher compression. I got a little scared though after seeing pictures of Nick's first engine. It looked like someone took a ballpeen hammer to the piston tops and he says he never heard the detonation! I did try once upping the timing at low rpm's and moderate loads (60kpa or so) to see if I could detect the ping and I couldn't. Let caution be your guide.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what are you guys running if you dont have distributers and were did you get them?? how can the computer tell the Kpa, is it with a MAP sensor?
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keaton wrote:
what are you guys running if you dont have distributers and were did you get them?? how can the computer tell the Kpa, is it with a MAP sensor?


I'm running a megasquirt II, endwrench and macbdog are running megajolt. They both use map sensors to determine Kpa. We're running ford EDIS systems. www.megasquirt.info for more information on the megasquirt.

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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi !

I'm currently installing a megajolt jr in my car but i have a problem ... how do you put the crankshaft trigger wheel on the engine ? Is fabricate a spacer the only way to go ?
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so are you having the ECU advance your spark?? are you using multi coil packs?

min wrote:
It means people running it don't have a distributor anymore, and they are able to map the ignition advance in a table like what I posted in my first post.


what are all the sensor you have and and to add?? cam position, crank poition, i know throttle and map is that it? are your injector firing per cyclender timing?
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, interesting. 2 dim. Ign maps., why no numbers after 6000 rpm todd?

min, very aggressive ign numbers , while cruising, idle etc.
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