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Guess What I Got At The Junk Yard...
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77Porsche924  



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Guess What I Got At The Junk Yard... Reply with quote

Went and dove straight in guys... read all over the web, read here, read everywhere...

On the right track? Crazy? Stupid? Should buy other parts?

Let me know your feedback...

This here's the DANIMAL's conversion from FI to EFI...

Fuel rail from a 1993 Ford Escort



Amazing fit, fits perfectly in the injector holes...






Plus another 1993 had the complete EDIS4 Ford Electronic Ignition System



So... now to buy A fuel regluator, trigger wheel & Megasquirt kit...

Set to go?

Hmm...

Dan
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the fuel regulator's already on the fuel rail you bought...the vacuum line's hanging off of it. you can get the Ford spring clamps to attach to the fuel rails in both -AN and barb fittings, too.


kinda cool find. i mean, it's nice to know that Skoda and Vauxhall parts fit but we got bunches of them thar escorts around here!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool!

Was it from the 1.9L Ford engine or the 1.8L Mazda engine?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you pickup a VR sensor for that EDIS system when you got it?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice find on the rail, may want to consider flipping it around though so the fuel lines go towards the correct side and arn't over the exhaust.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Actually I had a few questions...

I want to put that thign to the back (RE: fuel lines) but there's some thing bolted to the intake and has a rubber hose going to the throttle body but i'm not sure if i can move it or not.

Also, looks like the fuel presssure regulator has some kind of wire on it, not sure where that can get wired to...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, more stupid questions..

Should I use the ford escort injectors? Can they handle my setup or should i use a different brand/make/type? Should I buy new ones or use the ones i got from the wrecker?

I found out how to wire my regluator

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's a 1.9 fuel rail (91-96). a 3-bolt mustang FPR bolts right in. If anyone else wants one I've have about 4 of them. You could also get a 2.0 SPI fuel rail (97-2002) and it will line up the same, but it has the FPR mounted perpendicular to the rail so it might be easier to adjust.

The escort injectors are #15 high impedance. Pretty small, so it depends on how much power you are putting out.

Also, there is no wire going to the FPR, it's a vac line.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alexvex wrote:
The escort injectors are #15 high impedance. Pretty small, so it depends on how much power you are putting out.


according to http://www.megamanual.com/v22manual/minj.htm thats enough flow for 102 horsepower. So, probably not large enough. But depending on what kind of FPR you get you may be able to adjust the base pressure to get a bit more headroom and use them for awhile.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

77Porsche924 wrote:
I want to put that thign to the back (RE: fuel lines) but there's some thing bolted to the intake and has a rubber hose going to the throttle body but i'm not sure if i can move it or not.


Sounds like your aav (auxilary air valve) and you can move it where ever you like. Your doing a custom injection setup, so, you can really do whatever you want for most stuff.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My engine's only factory like 95 horse isn't it?

got any part numbers for bigger ones that'll bolt in?

Thanks RE: Air valve.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go for larger injectors, don't sell yourself short at this stage!

Injectors are only a few $$ form somethign bigger. 21lb/hr+ is what your after I would say. I had some injectors with the rail I used that was off a 1.6 I think and they maxed out very very quickly, they were something daft like 12lb/hr. they were up to 80% duty at 3k rpm. My 21lb/hr cream tops cost 20 and are no where near maxed, the peak (Apart form accel enrich) at about 70% at 5.5k.

Sort them now, then forget them until you hit big power
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much any ford injector bolts in...although some are "tall" (what the 1.9 injectors are) and others are "short" (2.0 injectors). I ran #42 Ford Racing Injectors in my escort, they bolt right in (Bosch Greentops, came in Ford Lighting).

Here's a good site that lists injectors...just determine what size you think you'll need. http://www.nitrostreet.com/injectors.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and don't worry about that fuel rail not flowing enough..I've personally run over 200whp on it, and i know someone running 275whp on a 2.0 one

Just in case anyone else wants to use one of these rails on a 931.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main concern I would have about running this on a 931 would be boost blowing it off the head; no good way to securely tie it down.

I'm going to just make my own out of standard rail extrusion...
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