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Manning
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I have. The trickiest part is trying to find a place to mount it. Best place seems to be next to the battery, but you have to remove or relocate the AC vacuum accumulator if you put it there and it is kind of exposed to rain in that location. All in all it is a pretty simple install, check out the article on Paragon's tech sessions section:
http://www.tech-session.com/kb/index.php?page=index_v2&id=87&c=4
I also have to say I just removed my MSD 6A last weekend after it started flaking out and making my car stall after a little less than a year on the car. Despite my comment about mounting in a location somewhat exposed to the weather, my car was not driven in inclimate weather since it was installed. At least one other person on Rennlist has had the same thing happen, but he attributes the failure to having had the battery short to the underside of his hood.
Regarding perfomance improvement, I thought it may have helped a little at first, but after having removed it I think new plugs, plug wires and cap and rotor improve performace just as much without having to spend the money on the MSD module.
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Vince Ponz
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I have one on for about 15 years. No problems and put it on the drivers side wheel well.
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Joes924Racer
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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To notice improvement you get the msd 6 then get fat performance wires
msd makes some I have taylors spriral pro wires plus a good cap and a msd coil I can varify that I see an improvemnt..Ive ran it for close to 3 yrs now.
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ideola
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Yeah, any of you that have the MSD on already, are there any specific instructions we need to know about? Performance Products' website says the 6A won't work with my 81 924 NA. What gives? I'd like to add something like this.
The Permatune I picked up has the wrong plug to work with the NA, but fortunately should work on the 931. How similar is the Permatune to the MSD in terms of what I can expect?
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Lizard
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:34 am Post subject: |
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WHOA STOP
the MSD helps/works on a 924/931,
the 924S with the 2.5L 944 engine, this has electronic ign and there is NO point to upgrading it!
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Manning
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| Lizard wrote: | WHOA STOP
the MSD helps/works on a 924/931,
the 924S with the 2.5L 944 engine, this has electronic ign and there is NO point to upgrading it! |
That's what it seems to boil down to. It will work, but I gotta say I don't think it improved performance much if at all. I had the money and others on Rennlist had done it and were impressed so I gave it a shot. Thing is I also replaced every vacuum line, the ISV, the oil mist seperator O-rings, intake gaskets and the cap and rotor at the same time I installed the MSD 6A. More likely than not the MSD 6A was NOT what made for noticably improved performance, but all of the other maintenace items did.
Besides, the MSD stops doing it multi spark thing after 3000RPM, so it really only helps from off idle to mid revs. Power is still being made way after that, and the MSD isn't helping.
Oh, and I have yet to see any dyno numbers the the 2.5L to show that an MSD actually makes a difference on these engines.
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Codyboy
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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how much does this package usually set u back?
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ideola
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I've seen the 6A for as low as US$179, but don't remember where...lots of places carry the MSD, so shop around.
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ESC944
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| Their are cheaper easier to instal and better performing solutions.... |
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ideola
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Their are cheaper easier to instal and better performing solutions.... |
Care to elaborate, oh wise one 
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Manning
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Mavfan wrote: | msd ignition is $230-290 for version 6a or 6aL
go to www.9xauto.com and go to performance, msd is listed there |
Yikes! If you must go forward with this folly, don't buy from 9xauto. At least look for a better price through one of the reliable hotrod retailers like Summitracing.com or Jegs.com. It's not like this stuff is some kind of super special magic that has to be purchaced from a Porsche parts vendor.
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ESC944
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ideola... the problem with elaborating is all the flack you have to take, when you show some one the simple easy way.... gotten kind of tired of that...
Lets just say this, their are other makes of cars with simple but better ignition systems that can easily be adapted to the 924 setup... using the stock distributor, its what you wire up after that.... that makes all the diff. |
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