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Lizard · Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:06 pm Post subject: 924 starter

Ok, here was my deal, my starter was dead and after getting a 931 starter, and then finally a 924 starter, and then the soliniod was bad, put a used one I had on it, and it would work when cold when hot no go.

so I went and bought a new one a Bosch SR62X as that is what they listed in there computer at weissach.
I get the starter find out I have to remove the oil filter to get it in, wait till I get home, get home remove the filter and it then hits the motor mount arm. I also noted that it doesnt have the jumper post for the Coil so with this starter on a 924 with the factory ICM you wouldnt be able to start the car.

so I then put it up against a spare block and tried to fit it with out the motor mount arm, it hit the BLOCK, so I said this is the wrong starter. Called Lordco and they said that was the part # Bosch listed for them too, so I gave the guy the Bosch # on the factory starter 001 311 136 and he cross referanced it to an Audi 2.2L starter SR24X iirc, which was taken over by part # SR10X, so I got the dimentions and confirmed it sounded like the correct starter. So I went down and got the replacement starter from them and measured all the dimensions, the bolt holes are correct, and the soliniod sits at the correct height, but the overall length is less and the overall diameter is smaller as well, and due to this is alot lighter.

we counted to teeth correct #, it also looks to spin the right way by the way the teeth go but will have to verify that tomorrow.

I will install it and let you know the outcome.
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Lizard · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:29 am Post subject:

ok update for all who are watching this. The SR10X Bosch starter is the CORRECT starter for our cars, it is smaller in diameter than the factory starter and has more room all around, however it cranks it over at about 2-3x as fast as the factory and it is WAY lighter, the origonal you really need 2 hands to manhandle it up and into place and if you have to hold it in one spot for along time your arm gets really tired, well this one is very easy to hold up for awhile and is very manigable with 1 hand, there is also more room for the bolts on this one, and leaves more room for the wires to be run.

I hope this helps you out, and whatever you do dont go by the Bosch catalog the one they list doesnt fit w/o some grinding.

once more the Bosch 1 to get is SR10X. it is for an AUDI 2.2L (not that they need to know that), it is about $20 more and does have abit bigger of a core charge, so bring your old one in with you when you get it.
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macBdog · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:10 am Post subject:

I was watching this thread, good info.. relevant for 924 (as opposed to 931) only though?
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Lizard · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:54 pm Post subject:

yes that is unfortunatly correct, this info is for the 924 only the starter would bolt into the 931 and be lighter but would turn it the wrong way, however for the 931 you can use a 944 unit which is lighter.
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D Hook · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3158 Location: Omaha, NE

Please be sure to update this thread in the next few weeks if there's any problems with this new starter.

Lizard · Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:20 am Post subject:

OK Dhook I will do, but it is going to be a week or so before I start to drive it again, I ended up reusing the head gasket expecting it to fail and it did so I ripped off the head at the same time, new gasket is on its was, as well as a set of headers from Jpab, and I have new exhaust pipe I need to install.
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Rob O · Joined: 26 Nov 2002 Posts: 86 Location: Oak Ridge, NJ

Just as an FYI for U.S. shoppers:

Paragon Products lists two rebuilt starters for 76 - 82 924 NA's

http://www.paragon-products.com/product_p/sr10x.htm

http://www.paragon-products.com/product_p/sr62x.htm

The SR10X is an extra $40 and the core charge is $50 vs. $20 for the cheaper unit.
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Lizard · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:50 am Post subject:

in regards to Rob O statement, the SR62X one as stated earlier will not work, it hits the block, the oil filter (even if you use the smaller 1) and the motor mount arm, so dont skimp out get the SR10X
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Johno · Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 53 Location: Greendale, WI

I am currently changing the starter in my 79, 924, and found that the new one did not fit either.
I purchased my new one from Parts America on line.

My old starter is : 001 208 200

My new stater is : 001 314 016 longer and larger in dia. than my old one

Lizard: 001 311 136
Lizard recommends the SR10X from an Audi 2.2L

I will be going to Checker Auto to see if they can cross refer any of these to be the same. I appears to me that these cars may have had several different starters. I like the idea that the SR10X spins faster, may help with hot start problems.

Johno · Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 53 Location: Greendale, WI

Went to Checker Auto, returned new large stater,
According to them their are 2 starters available, one for an automatic and 1 for a manual trans. The one for the automatic matchs the SR10X which is smaller. They think that the number have been mixed up from the get go.
My new stater will be in Friday/Sat. will match it up with my old and see if it fits.

Mannghi · Joined: 11 Nov 2002 Posts: 99 Location: Allentown, PA

I replaced the starter in my '77 last year, the new model was much lighter and smaller, but does the job. No need to take out the oil filter as I recall. All in all, one of the easier swap outs.

Lizard · Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:14 am Post subject:

update, I have the new starter in and have been really able to use it for the first time for starting the car

new headgasket, new headers (thanx jpab), new muffler and all new pipe 2.5", at the same time I removed all Vacuum operated items except the brake booster. I also coated the joints with a high temp silicone, I must have had a couple of vacuum leaks as it has got abit more power now. and idle is slightly more stable.
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jpab924 · Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:08 pm Post subject:

No prob, glad to see you are on the road again. Now lets see if you can keep it there.

Lizard · Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:14 am Post subject:

well I put a 6" muffler under the car and the pipe out infront of the drivers side wheel, it sounds nice, and I drove down to the lower mainland last night, car was perfect, although I may have to find a smaller diameter muffler, it sits abit low.
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kawabiker · Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Hungary

Please help me!

I am not speak,whrite,read enaglish.(i am from Hungary)

My 924 2.0i BAD startermotor BOSH number: 0-001-208-200

I am not "call,give,more" 001-208-200 startermotor.

What is 100% compatyble startermotor?(is a very young time,young car)
The new starter is a lot of money and i have not buy new starter

(( (my money is 250euro/mounth <-hungary rulez

)))

audi?vw?
What is a car type and starternumber is a "compatyble starter"
I call compatyble starter in the "car to take a part shop"
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