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Rasta Monsta
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 Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:33 pm Post subject: T-Bar Merit Badge/"H" Database |
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Giving myself one. DIMED on attempt #1.
I also propose t-bar database. If everyone who installs non-stock t-bars takes one simple measurement, nobody will get it wrong again. . .ever.
Simply measure from the TOP of the banana arm to the CENTER of the hub ("H"), unloaded (off the car).
My contribution:- TBAR: 22mm swapped for 27mm
- "H" MEASUREMENT: Originally 11 inches, modified 9 3/8 inches
- RIDE HEIGHT ATTAINED: Freakin' Perfect
Enjoy!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yea OK mate, good one.
Are you posting some pix and a how to?
Better yet, plan a trip to OZ sometime this year and get 2 gold stars. |
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ideola
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Feeling a bit more motivated lately, eh Rasta? How's progress on the motor coming along?
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:19 am Post subject: |
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The motor was waiting for the ass end of the car to be back on the ground, and now it is. Next, raise the front AHAP, remove the front suspension, then the motor swap can commence.
Yes, it is amazing how warmth and sunshine can get me into the garage. . .
@R.C., we both know you don't need a how-to. However, that 9 3/8 measurement ought to assist you and your 27s. . .
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Rasta Monsta
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RC
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | Yes, it is amazing how warmth and sunshine can get me into the garage. . . |
Usually gets me out to the beach/ river/ pub/ drive. Garage is better when its cold and/or raining IMO.
| Quote: | | @R.C., we both know you don't need a how-to. However, that 9 3/8 measurement ought to assist you and your 27s. . . |
Lacking just a little confidence Rasta. Know I will eventually get around and do it but in no rush to have my car stuck in the garage unless absolutely necessary. This job has the potential to do just that. From previous reports it is a time consuming trial & error exercise.
Good idea documenting the settings for various TBs and ride heights. Maybe we can come up with some basic formula or develop a spreadsheet of settings.
WTF is a banana arm? Have a general idea but don`t think I have any on a 77 with A/T. Do I??????
What is going on the front? Adjustable height coil overs or how do you level it if the rear is now set? |
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Yep, adjustable ride height kit from Paragon.
What I am calling the 'banana arm' is the flimsy steel hoo hah that comes off the torsion carrier and bolts to the body, via a steel and rubber mount, right behind the top center of the wheel.
With the proper motivation, you could get this job done in one weekend. The rub is that this (magical) weekend would not include removing the melted-on spring plate bushes, or recoating the spring plates with zinc or similar for rust protection.
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[quote="Rasta Monsta"]
What I am calling the 'banana arm' is the flimsy steel hoo hah that comes off the torsion carrier and bolts to the body, via a steel and rubber mount, right behind the top center of the wheel.
Hmm new info. In 911 parlance the banana is the equivalent to your aluminum trailing arm in the photos. Hoo hah has another connotation.
Chuck
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:52 am Post subject: |
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Copy that. . .I figured as much, but the guy who did the spreadsheet and associated illustrations called that lateral fixed piece the banana arm, so I reckon I was following him. . .
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, actually, I've only hear the term "banana arm" applied to the trailing arms on these cars, but your usage would be more logical...
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:05 am Post subject: |
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+1^^
I've seen those flimsy steel hoo hahs called "torsion carrier wings", and the rubber doohickeys called "wing mounts".
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Rasta wrote: | | Simply measure from the TOP of the banana arm to the CENTER of the hub ("H"), unloaded (off the car). |
I'm in the middle of the same indexing process with 27mm T Bars like yours. I have a question as to exactly what/where you measured to come up with the 9 3/8" length. I took one of your photos and marked it up to illustrate what I think you did. In the photo below, I would start from the top corner of the "flimsy steel hoo hah" marked by the red X and measure roughly straight down (yellow) to a centerline (red) of the wheel hubs. The length of the yellow line should equal 9 3/8" to mimic your setup.
Please let me know if I'm on the right track or correct my assumptions. I'll post my final measurements to this thread. Thanks for starting this Rasta.
Cheers, Brian
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:34 am Post subject: |
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| jazz guy wrote: | | I would start from the top corner of the "flimsy steel hoo hah" marked by the red X and measure roughly straight down (yellow) to a centerline (red) of the wheel hubs. The length of the yellow line should equal 9 3/8". |
Affirmative!
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| RC wrote: | | Maybe we can come up with some basic formula or develop a spreadsheet of settings. |
Link I used is HERE.
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