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xanderdeg

Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 286 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:42 am Post subject: High idle |
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My engine is idling at 1000 - 1100 rpm when warm. I've turned the idle adjuster screw as far as I can get it yet the idle hasn't dropped below 1000rpm. I'm suspecting a vacuum leak so I'll check that out.
Is there anything else that could be causing this? |
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staticsan
Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 450 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Is the mixture right? Too rich and it will idle too high. A really long shot is if your AAV is stuck wide open.
IME, a vacuum leak make it idle slower. Or not at all in severe cases.
Wade. _________________ '82 British NA - Which I think I've been very lucky with! |
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joemac
Joined: 22 Apr 2013 Posts: 44 Location: SE Pa.
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Sorry Wade, but that's just wrong.
A vacuum leak will definitely cause a high idle.
The idle adjustment on the throttle body is just a controlled vacuum leak.
So is the aux. air reg., although in conjunction with more fuel by way of the control pressure regulator (warm-up valve).
Try spraying some carburetor cleaner around the injectors while it is idling. If they're leaking, it will raise the idle while drawing in the additional hydrocarbons.
One injector at a time will pinpoint the offending culprit(s).
If no injectors are leaking, start shooting at intake hoses and their connections. _________________ Race car: my favourite palindrome.
Porsche: my favourite race car. |
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staticsan
Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 450 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| joemac wrote: | Sorry Wade, but that's just wrong.
A vacuum leak will definitely cause a high idle.
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Maybe it depends on how the vacuum is leaking. I had a vacuum leak from a loose clamp on the takeoff to the brake booster. Car wouldn't idle once it was warm: it would stall. Tightened the clamp and the idle came back up.
To my understanding, a vacuum leak will actually make it run lean because the vacuum isn't pulling the meter plate up far enough.
Also, I believe the idle control is supposed to be a bypass for the butterfly. It is not supposed to be pulling vacuum from the outside air, so it's not a "controlled vacuum leak".
Wade. _________________ '82 British NA - Which I think I've been very lucky with! |
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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If the mixture has been compensated for a vacuum leak by a PO (run richer)
this will cause high idle.
This will also throw everything out when the vacuum leak is fixed. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
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Harm

Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 1376 Location: Holland
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 3:44 am Post subject: Re: High idle |
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Something I used for testing every now and again:
Find yourself a steady downhill road that's quiet of traffic.
…In my case, rolling into town in the evening after I left the highway
Whilst driving down hill, down shift one gear
and take your foot of the gas pedal.
Listen/see if the rev counter stays stable or does fall.
The K-jetronic system in good condition will slow
down the engine and the car will drop speed.
I had numerous results over the years,
but whenever the rev counter climbed up without stepping on the gas,
it meant I had some sorting to do under the hood.
Either vacuum, mixture or timing
My 2 cents, HTH
Kind regards,
Harm. _________________ Porsche 924 NA 1982 LY7A/A3A3 _ Greater driving pleasure never harmed anyone. |
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xanderdeg

Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 286 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Harm, that' some great advice!
Right now I haven't had the chance to properly check, but I get the feeling that the rev's do rise as I go down the hill, even after downshifting.
I'll be leaning out the mixture soon anyways as it seems to be running a bit rich, I'll see what happens. |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Stop.
Find and correct any vacuum leaks
Obtain a CIS tester and check system and control pressures.
Obtain an exhaust analyzer and adjust mixture to factory specs. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
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xanderdeg

Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 286 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Alright will do.
Thanks for possibly saving me
Where might I obtain a CIS tester these days? |
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Mudd
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 78 Location: Cincinnati,Ohio
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:09 am Post subject: |
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I also have a high idle problem. Have you solved your high idle yet. I replaced all vacuum lines, tested the AAV, replaced the injector seals and still high idle. I was hoping to follow this topic to get answers for my problem, but it kind of just stopped. _________________ 1978 924
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xanderdeg

Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 286 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:13 am Post subject: |
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My idle seems to have fixed itself with minimal tinkering on my part...
It was probably just the sudden change in weather that changed the cars idle characteristics (35 year old mech fuel injection will do that...)
Try making your own thread, responses will be specific to your problem and most likely more helpful!
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curtisr

Joined: 07 Apr 2012 Posts: 98 Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Xander,
Glad things are better.
I was going to ask what the idle was when the AC is running.
When my AC is on, the rpm is ~ 800. When it's not on, 1100. I'm not suggesting that my results are where it should be, just sayin'... _________________ World's worst welder. |
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