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nd4spd924S
Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 14 Location: chester springs pa
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 4:14 pm Post subject: Are those strut braces worth the money |
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i have seen other porsches with these strut braces but are they really worth the money i mean 250 for a brace |
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81turbo
Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1065 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 1:09 am Post subject: |
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I know nothing about your car, but before anyone spends $250 on a strut bar there are a number of other things to do first. Get rid of those 14" wheels and get five bolt brakes. The do springs, lowering, swaybars, GOOD shocks and struts, and finally get a GOOD set of tires. After all that the last thing on your mind will be a strut bar |
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Fast924Turbo
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 122
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 8:13 am Post subject: |
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I'd have to agree with 81Turbo, there are many other good ways to spend your money (in my order of preference):
Wheels
Tires
Better shocks
Rear anti-sway bar if you haven't got one (don't know your car)
Stronger springs or torsion bar
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simsport
Joined: 06 Nov 2002 Posts: 573 Location: UK Warrington
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 9:13 am Post subject: Strutbrace |
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I agree the rest of the car needs to be set up to take advantage of a bar. However the geometry of a car driven hard on sticky tyres can change a fair bit if my covers are anything to go by. I fitted a 924s type made by sparco. The car handles well, better than before as a result.
Having said that my car is set up with hard suspension and veeery sticky rubber so it would benefit more than most.....anyway it looks cool!
Cheers
Simon _________________ Blown is always best! |
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dwak
Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 839 Location: Eastern Ontario
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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I've noticed two types of strut brace, strut to strut and strut-45 degrees back. comments? Also, if one had the gear, why not just fabricate one?
dwak |
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Paul
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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I agree, when I'm ready for one I'll fire up my wire feed welder and make one. |
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jpab924
Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1538 Location: Crown pt. IN. 50 miles southeast of Chicago Ill.
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Just make sure you make it out of a low weight titanium alloy. Put me on the list. |
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Joes924Racer
Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2002 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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sure thats light enough.. I have a drawings by a
coconut cowboy and could make them here cheap enough
as firen up the wire feed welder I dont own ...I think straight
across is best.. hey we could take up a fund to have them made
cheap enough. not with titanium though. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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Peter_in_AU
Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 2743 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2002 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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titanium? Not ricey enough unless you put a big "titanium" sign on it. Carbon fibre or even better yet a big slab of steel with a single layer of carbon fibre wrapped around it _________________ 1979 924 (Gone to a better place)
1974 Lotus 7 S4 "Big Valve" Twin-cam (waiting)
1982 924 (As featured on Wikipedia)
Learn to love your multimeter and may the search be with you |
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924RACR
Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 8804 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2002 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, take a wood dowel as a core, aluminium plugs for the ends to thread the rod ends into, and wrap the core in carbon fiber.
I'm hoping to test one of them out next year. I would agree that, until you've got uprated springs, shocks, and either poly or spherical bushings up front, your money would be wasted. No point trying to tie together the top of the front end if you've still got a massive amount of play in the suspension itself. They're meant to eliminate flex in the body, but the body won't flex very much if the suspension is still moving around. Everything in its turn. _________________ Vaughan Scott
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John Brown
Joined: 07 Nov 2002 Posts: 903 Location: Leesburg VA
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2002 4:07 am Post subject: |
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I'll go even farther, as is my usual dispostion, and say that, unless you are running with modifications AND on a track, the strut is a waste. |
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Lizard
Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 9364 Location: Abbotsford BC. Canada
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2002 4:24 am Post subject: |
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I agree you need alot of other suspension mods to make it work but I will disagree with having to be on a track, it can help on the street if you drive your car hard, i do have to say yes you would notice more of a different on the track though _________________ 3 928s, |
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Joes924Racer
Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2002 4:39 am Post subject: |
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ha 250 a brace thats way out there. make your own for a hundred
it would be slightly trick. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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924RACR
Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 8804 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2002 4:59 am Post subject: |
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I agree, $250 is way too much for something you can make yourselves! That's why I don't have one yet, it's relatively unimportant (even for me, racing-only use on a track) and I'd planned to build my own.
Only one problem - 944Racing.com is now selling them retail for $125. At that price I will buy to save myself the hassle. However no reason to not make your own, if you are handy and have the equipment. BTW, the rod-ends can be bought from any standard racer's place like RacerPartsWholesale.com - they're like $5-10/each, maybe less. The only PITA thing is in order to have the thing adjust by turning the rod, you have to have one left-hand and one right-hand thread rod end. They're readily available, but it'll also mean you'll need to buy a left-hand tap to thread the hole.
Just a coupla thoughts. I do agree with JB, only worth it on a modded car on track... and I'll go you one better - on race tires! Street tires are not usually sticky enough to matter. _________________ Vaughan Scott
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marky522
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 335 Location: Port Huron, MI
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2002 8:48 am Post subject: |
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There is a guy on rennlist that is making them for i believe $100 shipped, and the guys on the board have said even on a street driven car it HAS improved the feel.
Mark |
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