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skemcin  



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: SOT: New motor company, option for aftermarket? Reply with quote

I'm not sure if any of you guys have heard of this company (ecomotors.com), but I'm really impressed with the motor design and the folks behind it. By no means is this a new idea, more the modern day technology makes it more possible to complete.



With a recent $28M investment capital recently secured, they are claiming it exactly what they needed to finish the R&D - now on their 6th iteration.

Interesting - look who's on the board the CEO and CTO.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this too:

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Electrically Controlled Turbocharger - ect™

This development in turbocharger technology incorporates an electric motor into the turbo assembly. In essence, it provides a supercharger, driven by the electric motor, as an adjunct to the exhaust-driven turbocharger. Boost pressure can be created by the electric motor, the turbocharger, or both. The ect™ effectively eliminates turbo lag because the electric motor provides much faster turbine response, and also provides boost when there is low energy from the exhaust flow. The motor is actuated by an electronic controller, which can be integrated with the engine control unit. When it is being spun by the turbocharger, the electric motor acts as generator, producing electricity.

Advantages:

* Enhanced vehicle drivability due to improved low-end torque
* Improved fuel efficiency
* Improved emissions
* Turbo lag eliminated
* Generates electricity

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skemcin  



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the ECT is the icing on the cake from what I understand - great for cold engine starts in addition to the benefits mentioned above.

They claim half the size, weight, and cost with double the gas mileage. If that's the case, sliding one in a 924 could result in a perfectly balanced car, with an even lower center of gravity, increased performance and fuel mileage.

So, does this mean we have a 924 that is going to be much more respectable in the straight-aways, better in the corners and sipping gas all at the same time? Makes you lick your chops. A track car that can compete and a daily driver that gets at least 40 mpgs.
[drool]

I've already contact them showing my interest in acquiring a motor and I've suggested they go factory direct to aftermarket buyers (track cars, kit cars, oem replacements) and let us worry about fabricating custom motor mounts and transmission adapters. Otherwise it would be years before they could convince an OEM to put aside all their R&D on their engines just to replace it with this one.

High hopes, I know, but it doesn't hurt to try.

You should drop one in your UWB.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How cool is this:


That would mount pretty far back in the engine bay of a 924 and changin the oil couldn't get much easier than that.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're local to me too. Maybe I should pay them a visit, eh?!

Doubt I would get any airtime at all though.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ideola wrote:
They're local to me too. Maybe I should pay them a visit, eh?!

Doubt I would get any airtime at all though.


pm sent.
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Mike9311  



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skemcin wrote:
Yeah the ECT is the icing on the cake from what I understand - great for cold engine starts in addition to the benefits mentioned above.

They claim half the size, weight, and cost with double the gas mileage. If that's the case, sliding one in a 924 could result in a perfectly balanced car, with an even lower center of gravity, increased performance and fuel mileage.

So, does this mean we have a 924 that is going to be much more respectable in the straight-aways, better in the corners and sipping gas all at the same time? Makes you lick your chops. A track car that can compete and a daily driver that gets at least 40 mpgs.
[drool]

I've already contact them showing my interest in acquiring a motor and I've suggested they go factory direct to aftermarket buyers (track cars, kit cars, oem replacements) and let us worry about fabricating custom motor mounts and transmission adapters. Otherwise it would be years before they could convince an OEM to put aside all their R&D on their engines just to replace it with this one.

High hopes, I know, but it doesn't hurt to try.

You should drop one in your UWB.


You buy the motor. I will build the mounts...you talk about the easy part!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ideola wrote:
They're local to me too. Maybe I should pay them a visit, eh?!

Doubt I would get any airtime at all though.


I think if it was put into a high profile car that they could display or use you would get airtime.

It would be neat to do a 356 coupe with this motor too.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tag/ecomotors/
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some engine statistics:

  • 300HP
  • direct injected
  • two-stroke diesel engine.
  • displacement of 2.5 liters
  • cylinder bores of 100mm (with very short strokes)
  • dimensions of (LxWxH): 22.8 x 41.3 x 18.5
  • aluminum construction
  • weighs only 300 lb

versus (correct me where I'm wrong) a 924 NA

  • 125HP
  • fuel injected
  • four-stroke diesel engine. inline 4
  • displacement of 2.0 liters
  • cylinder bores 86.50 mm × 84.40 mm
  • dimensions of (LxWxH): (48x24x24)
  • cast iron construction
  • weighs only 350 lbs


Conclusion - shed 50 lbs, gain 2 and a half times the power in what I think is roughly the same amount of space.
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