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Rasta Monsta
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 Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 4:12 pm Post subject: UT-CIS FAIL |
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| Unwired Tools wrote: | Dear UTCIS customer:
Yesterday we found that the flexible tube used inside the UTCIS was made from the incorrect material. This tube is about 3" long and it connects the Teflon pressure line from the UTCIS valve body to the control pressure sensor inside the UTCIS controller housing. We traced this problem to a vendor who was supposed to supply a high quality Silicone tubing. Our normal vendor was out of stock so we used an alternate. The problem is that our alternate vendor had a mis-print in their catalog. Instead of Silicone tubing, we received a quantity of "Silcone" (trade name) which isn't Silicone and isn't suitable for gasoline. This incorrect tubing type is not compatible with gasoline and it will weaken and leak. When a leak occurs the car will likely not start because the control pressure will be very low, under 1 bar. If this occurs gasoline will leak into the controller body, which should not affect the controller itself.
Please stop using the UTCIS immediately. We can offer you a replacement tube if you prefer to get your UTCIS back into service more quickly. Changing this tube takes about 5 minutes once you have access to the controller. To gain access to this tube you only need to remove the controller from its mount in order to remove the cover. The UTCIS valve body can remain in place. If you prefer, we will gladly service your UTCIS for you and we will pay for shipment back to us and return shipment to you.
Please contact us as soon as possible so that we can remedy this problem.
Sincerely,
Steve Schlanger
UnwiredTools Support |
NFW.
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stevekat
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| Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. Haven't heard from them. Hope my unit from earlier is OK.
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fiat22turbo
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| Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, at least they owned up to the mistake and are wiing to make it right. At least it didn't fail on you and you now have a chance to get it fixed before you get back to driving "shaggy" on a regular basis.
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morghen
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| Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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these mistakes happen on a larger scale too....think toyota...thing gas pedal 
IMO what the guys did here is only fair...and honorable.
i'm not trying to kiss their ass but if they pay for shipping and replace the parts...they sent emails to everyone.....well thats a company i'd want to deal with.
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gegge
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| Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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How can you tell if you got the faulty "Silcone" hose? By color or brandname?
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ideola
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| Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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I *just* purchased a UT-CIS and received it over the holiday weekend. I also got this email.
The fact that they have owned up to issue and are offering to make it right at no cost to the individual is pretty remarkable in this day and age. I'm impressed.
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:59 am Post subject: |
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I appreciate the positive comments toward the company, and don't mean to dispute them or tear down Unwired Tools. However, this is a product defect that could result in spraying fuel and/or fire. As such, it is addressed as a legal necessity, not due to altruism or customer service. . .take it from a pro!
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RC
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Rasta`s the expert on US litigation but must agree with his comments regardless. These people are responsible for a faulty product and liable for the consequences, so are only covering their arse really. Similar consumer laws in the US as here I imagine. Purchasers are entitled to a full refund. Their choice of refund, repair replacement, modification. Note how in the email they promote their easiest and cheapest fix of "DIY" with them only supplying a few inches of hose. Then I am sure any warranty will be void and YOU then become responsible for any fault.
Sure that the best advice from a lawyer would be to send it back for replacement preferably (if you still want one), or a repair.
Has anyone heard of "silcone" hose, trade or brand name? Google hasn`t. Reading between the lines gives a good idea that they bought some cheap and clearly nasty hose from either a Chinese or Nigerian seller, or maybe from an illiterate local one without a spell checker. |
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tuurbo
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:46 am Post subject: |
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It's a smart business decision to fix the problem now rather than risk litigation after the fires have started.
BP should be so prudent.
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stevekat
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Unwired Tools is clearly engaging in good corporate and ethical policy.
I have an older unit (from July 2009) and called to check I had no issues.
They let me know that the issues effects only very recent units, something like the last two weeks (say a few weeks.)
To clarify, since I was confused, the issue is found in the controller box, not in the motor/valve unit, so should be easy to access.
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flosho
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:28 am Post subject: |
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*cough*shouldawentmegasquirt*cough*
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:13 am Post subject: |
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*cough*youholedapistononmegasquirt*cof*
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fiat22turbo
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*cough*gointmegasquirthasntrunintwoyears*cough*
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flosho
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:03 am Post subject: |
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*cough*
Holed a valve not a piston... 
Fiat, you need to get your ass in gear! I've personally sent out 2 or 3 base maps that have helped people get their cars running!
*cough*
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