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Dutch924-racer

Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 1081 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:00 am Post subject: difference 931 S1 and S2 cylinderhead ? |
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Is there any difference between the S1 and S2 931 cylinderhead ? So are they interchangeable ? _________________ 937 trackday car
Series 2 engine
951S turbo and intercooler
Fast road camshaft
Forge recirculation valve + boost controller |
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Was never in a situation to compare the two, but one minor item comes to mind. The later one might have the hole drilled for the turbo oiler breather, while the earlier one may not..? Easy to fix either way - either drill the hole/s, or install a block-off plate..
Other than that, I'm real sure they're the same and interchangable. _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
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Grenadiers
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 3222 Location: Nelson, WI & Prescott, AZ
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Here's the shot of the Series I Euro head I have. Note the right side where there are two threaded holes. Not a block-off plate either.
 _________________ '83 944 Track car.
'88 924S Track car.
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Grenadiers
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 3222 Location: Nelson, WI & Prescott, AZ
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:46 am Post subject: |
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But then, on Spike, also a 1980, you can see there is the turbo breather.
 _________________ '83 944 Track car.
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Many S1 heads were either already built with the breather update or may have been taken back to the dealer and fixed later. I have only seen one S1 931 head aside from Dave's photo above that did NOT have the breather update port drilled. Aside from that, I am not aware of any other differences between the S1 & S2 head. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Cedric

Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2809 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:16 am Post subject: |
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I have the "uppgraded" pipe to on my s1 motor (sits on the shellf at the moment in favour of a s2 engine). It also has the uppgraded manifold. Could it be that the late 1980s models got the uppgrades from factory? _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| Cédric wrote: | | I have the "uppgraded" pipe to on my s1 motor (sits on the shellf at the moment in favour of a s2 engine). It also has the uppgraded manifold. Could it be that the late 1980s models got the uppgrades from factory? |
I think so. My two S1s are both in the 1400+ serial number range, and they both came with the update. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Rich H
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 2665 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: |
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I'm sure I saw a leaflet issued to dealers to add the breather mod that included drilling the head _________________ 1994 Lotus Esprit S4 - Work in progress...
1980 Porsche 924 S2 DITC Turbo - Original spec
1978 Homo-Sapiens - Tired spec
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:00 am Post subject: |
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More on the turbo breather updates here - http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=10536 _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
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jessy1984

Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Location: belgium
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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they are both the same
just looked in pet same part number
only like mentiond here there's a modification for the turbo breather
if its not there just drill a hole in it  |
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McGyver

Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 354 Location: Jelenia Gora - Poland
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:05 am Post subject: |
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I don't have this breather update too in my 931' 79 cylinder head. But I have plan to drill that hole and use it later in my engine rebuild project.
Cylinder head part number is: 931 104 301 3R
It's taken from 924 Turbo series 1 - 1979
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moone924

Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 868 Location: Douglas Wyoming
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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I guess my late '82 931 has a early head on it, as it looks like the euro series one head Grenadiers has, with no breather. _________________ Ryan Moone
Always shopping for a nice s2 931 to baby.
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Spike has a series 1 US head. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
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Dutch924-racer

Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 1081 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for the replies, I just bought a s2 head. It does have the hole in it.
My other s2 had didn't have the hol in it. But I drilled it in myself and made the modification pipe. _________________ 937 trackday car
Series 2 engine
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Fast road camshaft
Forge recirculation valve + boost controller |
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pelican13
Joined: 21 Sep 2009 Posts: 22 Location: Provence ,FRANCE
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| I have an euro 931 of 1982 , CN100539 , there is no breather hole in the cyinderhead. |
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