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ic932  



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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess any open deck design can not compete with an iron closed deck. Anyway, there's another obvious disadvantage too as I discovered yesterday. I opened up a M44/41 engine that I bought cheap and therefore in unknown condition. No.4 cylinder and piston seriously damaged. I've seen pistons scraped to hell with no visual damage to the bore but when the pistons "grab" on these alloy/Nikasil (or was it Alusil?)bores it's carnage!

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FSMITH010  



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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bass gt wrote:
Raceboy,

I've already been doing some preliminary work, and i think we could do something VERY similar to the Audi 5 cylinder 20V head.
Steve


would that disqualify you in your catagory if you had an audi engine, I mean the whole engine, rather than making a custom head you could stick the audi engine in for less I would think. you wouldn't have to worry about anything then.. except how you would get more traction.
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do any companies make aftermarket cylinder heads for the 5 cylinder audi engine? Maybe that would be the crew to go after for a 931 dohc head.
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FSMITH010  



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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flosho wrote:
Do any companies make aftermarket cylinder heads for the 5 cylinder audi engine? Maybe that would be the crew to go after for a 931 dohc head.


I'm not sure since people do quite a lot to the 5cyl without touching the engine basics and make high hp. you have to worry about destroying transmissions before you need to worry about your cylinder head.

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ideola  



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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FSMITH010 wrote:
you have to worry about blowing trannies before you worry about your head.

man, that could be taken out of context.
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

luckily this is a car enthuiast website and not a meeting site lol haha
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Rocco R16V  



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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

might look into the VW 16V cyl head, it is very similar to the audi 20v head minus one cyl. i'm not sure but i think it has the same bore spacing as the audi block. may be very close to bolting up. somthing to look into if tying to build a custom 16V head for the 2l
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morghen  



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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea this was discussed over and over since the age of dawn if you know what i mean(if you dont..thats ok i dont neighter at this hour)...i was under the impresion that the 924 had "the audi engine" in it...well what the hell..where is that audi ? and why are not any audi parts bolting on to it?
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Scorpio  



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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All this Audi and VW talk is disconcerting
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FSMITH010  



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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scorpio wrote:
All this Audi and VW talk is disconcerting


Talk of the audi turbo 5 cylinder is always concerting. symphonic concerting.

Performance of a six, with the economy of a four.

(waits for ideola to pervert his post)
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*BUMP*

4 More interesting pics added to original post

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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VERRY NIICE....you dont mess around Steve! love your work
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J1NX3D  



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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have Steve/BassGTs old build photos saved, particularly the seam welding, that they could please re-host and share for prosperity? I know I have them saved ona n old external HD but I can't find the power cable for it!
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Mike9311  



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking. I have some of his pics but haven't found those yet....then again I have been collecting photos since at least 2004 if not earlier
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J1NX3D wrote:
Does anyone have Steve/BassGTs old build photos saved, particularly the seam welding, that they could please re-host and share for prosperity? I know I have them saved ona n old external HD but I can't find the power cable for it!


Is this the original orange shell or the one being welded up by PrepFab? I know where the PrepFab shell is now. Its turning into a GTP rep. Not so sure about the orange shell. It was being broken up.
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