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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:41 am Post subject: |
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I'm thinking that you will need to convert to a better ignition system that has knock detection and to EFI to precisely control the mixture to each cylinder if you want to run boost above 1 bar.
Detonation will break pistons in about 20 seconds if it can't blow the headgasket first.
There are experts on the board that can provide more details.... |
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cleethorpes
Joined: 26 Jan 2004 Posts: 186 Location: cleethorpes (oddly enough!)
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:38 am Post subject: |
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definately gonna go the new ignition route. Simply do not have that kind of money to spare at the moment. _________________ '24 turbo with dodgy gt bodykit......needs a new home |
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cleethorpes
Joined: 26 Jan 2004 Posts: 186 Location: cleethorpes (oddly enough!)
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:42 am Post subject: |
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higher flow injectors could also be a route to take? _________________ '24 turbo with dodgy gt bodykit......needs a new home |
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9xx
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 627 Location: Jarvenpaa, Finland
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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I'm still rebuilding my wastegate, haven't had that much time for the 931 wrenching...
Look at these items, there is some sort of remnant on them. Is it glue? Do I have to glue them back together? (that is of course the old diaphragm on the left, going to trash can)
 _________________ Mikko
All gone: 931 '82 Alpine White, original option "220" G31 with LSD + 3 x 944 |
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CrashTest

Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 81 Location: Daytona Beach, FL 32114
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Not sure what the junk could be, maybe grease of some sort... When I assembled mine, I coated the outside of the diaphragm with silicone based grease.
sammy _________________ '80 931 primer, brown interior, five lug In pieces now and parting out. |
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9xx
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 627 Location: Jarvenpaa, Finland
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Ok, thanks. In your wastegate, were there grooves inside the spring housing? (caused by the spring, eating itself into aluminium)
I wonder if I should fill those grooves with some kind of metal compound and sand it down nicely. What have you guys done to these grooves or have you done anything? _________________ Mikko
All gone: 931 '82 Alpine White, original option "220" G31 with LSD + 3 x 944 |
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Ja, the grooves normally occur. I didn't do anything about mine, though I recall someone here filled them in. That guy or someone else I believe made a delrin? sleeve whose purpose was to keep the spring centered. A good search might find that stuff (if it wasn't mentioned in this topics' previous posts which I haven't re-read).
I also coated the vented side of the diaphragm with silicone in hopes of prolonging its' life - it seems to have worked because it's ages since I've had to [deal] with it. Silicone nfg for o2 sensors and cat converters, so only apply to the vent side (the other side, the wg control line side, is exposed to intake air, so don't apply silicone there). _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox
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9xx
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 627 Location: Jarvenpaa, Finland
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Should there be a gasket between the aluminium parts of wastegate? When I took it apart I'm sure there wasn't any but now as I'm about to assemble it back together it seems strange that there isn't any? _________________ Mikko
All gone: 931 '82 Alpine White, original option "220" G31 with LSD + 3 x 944 |
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Pretty sure the lip of the diaphragm serves as a gasket - if we're thinking of the same surfaces. _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox |
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9xx
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 627 Location: Jarvenpaa, Finland
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Oh I see! I'll take another look if it would make more sense now. _________________ Mikko
All gone: 931 '82 Alpine White, original option "220" G31 with LSD + 3 x 944 |
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:34 am Post subject: |
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OK, so here's a question, haven't been able to find the answer in FSM...
The nut on the top of the wastegate valve, shows up in Smoothie's diagram, just above the the bright green diaphragm...
How does one loosen and remove that nut? I have a spare wastegate I've pretty much gotten completely disassembled except for that nut, which prevents me from taking it completely apart. I can't keep the valve from spinning, and I'm concerned about damaging it by trying to grab onto it with anything. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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9xx
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 627 Location: Jarvenpaa, Finland
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Smoothie: Thanks!
ideola: I try to explain it in english: I took a piece of rubber from a bicycle inner wheel (what is that in english?) Then I placed that piece around the valve and then pressed it very hard with long nose pliers. There was enough of friction to prevent the valve from spinning, yet it didn't leave any marks on the valve surface. I've had couple of beers now, I hope that made some sense. _________________ Mikko
All gone: 931 '82 Alpine White, original option "220" G31 with LSD + 3 x 944 |
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924guy

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 2088 Location: Port St. Lucie, FL
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:41 am Post subject: |
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i dont recall needing to do anything special, i think i just grabbed with my kung fu grip and it came right off...  _________________ Eric
78 924
82 931 SE "smokey"
99' VehiCross
Y2K Honda Insight
http://www.cardomain.com/id/924Guy
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Eric, the one I have is pretty snug, already tried that...although I may not have the same kung fu grip as you
9xx, I understand your description perfectly, I'll give that a try, thanks! _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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