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Oysteinrb  



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm just curious if anyone has attempted this with the 2.5L from the S? Not saying I'm thinking of it seriously, just curious to see if it had been done.


this was, or still is my plan (a little short on money and time lately). However, i am going to try out an eaton m90. Any suggestions or tips?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After my stock coolant pipe was starting to rust out some years ago I made a single pipe reducing adapter from #316 stainless steel, which was merely supported on both ends with the rubber hose, no brackets.

Following Leadfoot and Simsports discussion on the coolant pipe I recalled that the smaller pipe was indeed blocked off and that was why I never made one and had the smaller outlet on the rear housing blocked off with a cap.



From Simsport`s experience with additional cooling it seemed beneficial to have coolant flow from the back of the head and block at all times rather than just when the heater valve was open. Realistically, on a hot day when the heater was off was the time when you needed the flow around #4, especially on a boosted engine.

Now I have modified the pipe with the addition of a 10mm ID open branch at 30 deg to the heater pipe. Essentially similar to the stock one with the hole drilled through. This branch will be connected to the rear flange like it should have been.






Does anyone have any idea if the 931s were also obstructed and why Porsche had the pipe blocked anyway? Was it to circulate more coolant through the head?

Roger

Edit to fix pic links


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hoboceratops wrote:
I'm just curious if anyone has attempted this with the 2.5L from the S? Not saying I'm thinking of it seriously, just curious to see if it had been done.


well that has been my plan for a while now... however money is scarce. will post up stuff as soon as i commence fabbing the mounting brackets and all that..
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RC wrote:


Does anyone have any idea if the 931s were also obstructed and why Porsche had the pipe blocked anyway? Was it to circulate more coolant through the head?

Roger


anybody able to answer this?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a vague recollection of reading in one of Ideola`s posts or compilations that his 931 tubes were also blocked.

Still don`t know why. Possibly something not performance oriented? Like more flow through the heater core so the northerner`s balls don`t fall off in winter.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RC wrote:
Have a vague recollection of reading in one of Ideola`s posts or compilations that his 931 tubes were also blocked.

Still don`t know why. Possibly something not performance oriented? Like more flow through the heater core so the northerner`s balls don`t fall off in winter.


RC any pics or diagrams of how you "Tee'd" the coolant pipe/rear head flange so that flow was constant even when the heater core was off?
And where youve put yr hetare core valve in the setup?
Im not quite seeing how its done...too much pre xmas pudding
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Essentially it is the stock system the way it should have been, with the smaller branch pipe open. There`s two parallel circuits. The larger 16mm pipe to the heater valve, then heater core, and to the rear flange. The smaller 12mm pipe (10 ID) is connected direct to the smaller rear flange outlet via the reinforced PVC hose.

The thinner hose always provides flow, regardless of the heater valve. With the correct OE type thermostat (additional lower valve) coolant is recirculated for fast yet even warm up. Once up to temp and thermo is open, constant flow from rear reduces local hot spot at #3 & #4.

With old and partially blocked heater core the heater output was sufficient 99% of the time. Canberra and surrounds on cold winter nights really wanted a little more, or a hotter thermo. Now that the core is a new 944 unit it provides more heat than you would ever want in Oz, even Tassie.







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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so drilling into the coolant tube through the smaller diameter off pipe would be the equivalent...sounds too simple.

p.s my smaller pipe had a small hole in it...rust perhaps
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scorpio wrote:
so drilling into the coolant tube through the smaller diameter off pipe would be the equivalent...

Yes.

Scorpio wrote:
sounds too simple.

Let us know how it goes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at modding my coolant pipe, and had a question.

Can anyone confirm that the part of the pipe which bypasses the heater core was actually intentionally blocked off by the factory? This seems nuts to me.

TIA


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

think it's only on the N/A, my turbo x over wasn't blocked.
P.S you have a PM from me...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting thing here is that they all appear to have the same part #. PET 79 & 85, ROW & US all list: 047 121 073 water tube.

Perhaps any holes have developed because of rust? IDK

Let`s try to get to the bottom this guys, please post your tube findings. Can you blow through it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:22 am    Post subject: I can blow through it Reply with quote

Three N/A ones that lay around:
No blockage whatsoever, sir.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: I can blow through it Reply with quote

Doh! screwed up there.
Failed to scroll down in the PDF to the turbo engine cooling system.

Apparently there ARE 2 different part numbers. The 047 121 073 water tube is the NA unit, #8.

The pet then lists: (#10) 131 106 052 00 water tube as the turbo part.

So which, if any, are blocked or not?


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Certainly sir, http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=335718#335718
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 931 units are not blocked either.
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