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StienbargerR
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 1362 Location: Richmond, IN
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:16 am Post subject: |
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Min,
Thanks for the tip! I will have to do that soon.
Thanks,
Ryan _________________ 1978 924 NA
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augidog

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 1360 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Smoothie is right - it is the decel valve. If you bypass it you will raise your vac up about 3-5 points hence the quicker idle. But you will backfire and the car will sound like crap. I plan to remove mine after I put in a EDIS system. Until then I just replaced all the lines.
Plug the big lines to and from it if you want to try it removed. _________________ 1978 924 95 mile daily driver.
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!tom

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1941 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:28 am Post subject: |
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And how should the hoses be connected to the decel valve?
I've wondered about this myself, since there is a hose connected to the bottom of my decel valve that just hangs down and is open near a bunch of crud in the bottom of my engine bay. _________________ 78 924 NA
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| !tom wrote: | And how should the hoses be connected to the decel valve?
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That would be the small diameter line coming out the bottom of it, correct? If so, that's the control line and gets T'ed into any source of manifold vacuum (that means downstream of the throttle valve).
Actually, it appears in US397 Haynes - item 10 on pg.106 and item 9, pg.107. _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
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!tom

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1941 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I connected the small diameter line coming out of the bottom to a vacuum source, there was an unused barb (used to be connected to the A/C) in the big line going to the brake booster.
Once I unplugged the barb and stuck the decel valve line on, the engine idle speed picked up by around 150 RPM or so, and was now idling above 1000. If I revved the engine, it would drop to about 1600 RPM after a minute, and the only way to get it lower than that was to disconnect and reconnect the decel valve.
Something tells me I've got a little adjusting to do. I've disconnected it again for the time being, since it's obviously been tuned to run without the decel valve operational.
First thing I'll do is what Min suggested, and replace all the hoses. Then I'll have to get a pressure tester, set the idle speed, set the timing, etc. so I can get things tuned properly. _________________ 78 924 NA
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:38 am Post subject: |
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I think both of yous have leaky decel valves [or one or both are stickin' open]. They're not supposed to have any affect except when they sense that spike in vacuum when the throttle shuts at approx 1600+ rpm - then it should pop open, then gradually close -completely. One test is to pinch the larger lines shut - if rpms drop then the decel valve is leaky or not closing completely. _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
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