View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
-nick
Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA
|
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:52 am Post subject: Tip For Those With RaceWare Head Studs |
|
|
Studs are great, unfortunately though you can only pull the head on/off with the engine out of the car if you use them with our 2.0L's due to the angle the engine sits. That is, unless you first pull the studs out, then pull the head off. Or put the head on, then screw the studs in. Either one is tricky as there isn't much room to grab hold of the studs or double-nutting and you can risk damaging threads. I would be willing to bet that this is the reason we didn't get studs from the factory.
I came up with a simple trick- when installing the head with the engine in the car, sit the head on with all the studs out, brush a little threadlocker on the very top of the stud threads and twist the nuts on a couple turns. When the thread locker dries you can spin the studs in easily using the nut. Once the studs are screwed all the way in you just keep tightening the nut and it breaks free of the threadlocker reasonably easily and you can torque the nuts down.
I haven't tried pulling the head, but I think that if you brush the threads that stick above the nuts with threadlocker and loosen the nuts onto it and wait til it dries- the studs *should* pull back out without much trouble. Might take some patience to pull them out this way, but it's better than ruining those $15+/ea. studs!
PS- I think using the stock head locating circlips is probably vital to making this method work. They keep the head centered so the studs aren't pinched by a slightly off-center head.
If only RaceWare would carve a female hex-key slot in the top of the studs we could avoid this whole mess...
nick |
|
Back to top |
|
|
81turbo
Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1065 Location: Oakland, CA
|
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
When I did mine I used a Cap nut in combination with a regular nut to turn the stud into a bolt. It worked pretty well. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Smoothie
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
|
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
I used a cap nut for installation too. -Also noticed that they'd be easier to put in than to take out, especially the last two at the firewall due to clearance. -So I used a Dremel tool to cut a straight slot in the top of those two so they could be turned with a flat blade srewdriver. _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox |
|
Back to top |
|
|
tomcooper
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 301 Location: Waterloo, Nebraska
|
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:39 am Post subject: Tip for those with Raceware Studs |
|
|
Okay, I have been putting this off long enough, but where is the best place to buy Raceware studs? I was about to try EBS, but if anyone has any better suggestions let me know.
Thanks,
Tom Cooper |
|
Back to top |
|
|
81turbo
Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1065 Location: Oakland, CA
|
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
I got mine from the source. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
tomcooper
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 301 Location: Waterloo, Nebraska
|
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:36 am Post subject: Tip for those with Raceware Studs |
|
|
How do you get to "the source"
Tom |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Smoothie
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
|
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
Same here, from Race-Tech Engineering in Taylor, Michigan in June'94.
http://www.raceware-fasteners.com/prod01.htm
You might find them selling for less through another retailer though, since direct sales from manufacturers tend to be at msrp. _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox |
|
Back to top |
|
|
-nick
Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA
|
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
Boy, and I thought I was on to something
I bought my set from paragon products. Pelican also carries them. I think they are the same as ordering through RaceWare ~$180 if I recall.
nick |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Paul
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
|
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
I got mine from EBS and they deserve our business, they really are great guys. I'll bet they will match any price you can find elsewhere. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
tomcooper
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 301 Location: Waterloo, Nebraska
|
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:06 am Post subject: Tip for those with Raceware Studs |
|
|
Just went to EBS's web site and asked for a quote. I'll see what tomorrow brings and give them a call if I haven't heard anything by about 3:00 P.M. local time, 1:00 their time.
Tom
Opps, just got an automatic reply. Probably should have waited until the morning and called. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Paul
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
|
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Always call them, their site is lacking.... _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
endwrench
Joined: 07 Dec 2002 Posts: 1631 Location: Victor, Montana
|
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
One other tip, be sure and actually READ the instructions unlike yours truly ! You don't torque them to stock specs. They actually torque to a lower spec due to the fine thread pitch used. If you use the stock bolt torque spec you WILL stretch them!! I know.
Todd |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Paul
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
|
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
And there are different (lower) torque settings if you are using Mobil 1. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Rasta Monsta
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11723 Location: PacNW
|
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Could a machinist add a female hex to these? Could Raceware? _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
bass gt
Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 971 Location: Johannesburg for now!!
|
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Rasta Monsta wrote: | Could a machinist add a female hex to these? Could Raceware? |
The Cosworth studs i use have a 4mm hex machined into the top. Makes fitting a snap.
Also, a little tip worth trying. Wind 1 stud into the block, either top front or rear. Then with the head at 30degrees to the block, slide the head down the stud. Rotate the head until it is lined up and gently seat onto the gasket holding collars. Once set, wind in one more stud and you're set. But of course, having a hex in the stud head makes this MUCH easier.
Steve _________________ Front Wheel Drive is the Devil's work. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|