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timstar92404

Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: richmond BC
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject: 5 bolt brakes? |
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I'm not sure yet if I'm keeping my 924 or possibly buying anohter 92n/a
i'm going to the mechanic again about my exhaust problem
but anyways on the 924 n/a with 4 bolt brakes I don't like the stock wheels and I really like the look with the shiny 928 wheels on the 924.
I'm wondering how how much should it cost for the conversion (parts)
and is it something fairly easy to do or get a mechanic to do for you?
I mean is it just switching parts or do you need things costumized?
I don't really know anything about brakes so I don't think it would be a good idea to try it myself.
also where should I go to get the parts?
there are 944s for sale for parts in my city I could try and ask the person to take the parts out for me
thanks for any help
I think the most expensive part would be the wheels / tires... _________________ 78 924 sold.
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m3vil

Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Eugene, or. USA
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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when i did this swap, i called Parts Heaven in california somewhere, for $500 i got front spindles, calipers, flexible lines, back trailing arms complete with axles, hubs, and parking brake cable. i had to buy hardlines, $5 at a pick-a-part yard here. a new master cylinder, $125 i think. ball joints, $20. and wheels and tires, 15" cookie cutters with falken 225/50-r15, $700. the work was relativly easy. except that big castellated nut on the back axles, one with decent know how could do in a weekend, with less know how maybe a week of tinkering. good luck _________________ 1977 924 (early) Martini Package |
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Vince Ponz

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3581 Location: Florida
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 944 that I am parting but you are too far away.
Sorry. _________________ "Never let them see you sweat"
77.5 924 modified track car
79 931 Euro stock
88 924S SE
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 6:28 am Post subject: |
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$800-$1000 for used parts with wheels and tires. That would include new caliper seal kits, brake pads, and caliper hardware kits if necessary. Check the rotors carefully to make sure that they have not been worn too thin, otherwise, you could get stuck for up to between $250-$300 for new rotors.
You can sell off the old parts (wheels tires, front and rear brake assemblies) you removed during the conversion to help lower the final cost.
The conversion is a simple straight forward project that would take most people who are not mechanically challenged two days, including taking the time to install new seal kits, brake pads and hardware in the calipers before installing them.
Unfortunately, Tim, you don't seem to be capable of following directions. I would recommend that you NOT TRY THIS BY YOURSELF. Get someone who knows what they are doing to help you, or do it for you. I suspect that I mechanics would charge you $800-$1000 for the labor, considering the time involved. You should be able to get someone from this board to do the work for you for $500 or less. This is less that 8 hours work if you know what you are doing. |
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timstar92404

Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: richmond BC
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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damn a 1000 in labour.......
I guess it isn't really worth it if it costs me 1500 for new wheels....
thats almost how muc I paid for my 924.
but the car would look much nicer with the 928 rims and disk brakes would be nicer...
I don't know if my brakes have worn out but when I break from 60 mph
it takes quite a while to come to a full stop.... _________________ 78 924 sold.
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timstar92404

Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: richmond BC
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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where exactly would I go to get all the right parts.....
I"m not even shure what exactly I need thatis the hardest part finding all the right parts. _________________ 78 924 sold.
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tj924

Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 957 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| timstar92404 wrote: | | I don't know if my brakes have worn out but when I break from 60 mph it takes quite a while to come to a full stop.... |
Mine pulls up VERY quickly with the 4-bolt setup. Have you adjusted the rear drum brakes lately? If not, do a search as there are several posts on how to do it. Dead easy, you just need to get the back wheels off the ground.
Do you know when the brake fluid was replaced last? Again, easy job & covered extensively in previous posts & in Haynes. Definitely makes a difference to your braking. _________________ TJ
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timstar92404

Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: richmond BC
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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old brake fluid effects the braking?
I have no idea when it was replaced but it isn't low or anything.
my drums probably need adjusting. and I can get my pads replaced. _________________ 78 924 sold.
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tj924

Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 957 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| timstar92404 wrote: | | old brake fluid effects the braking? |
Yep. Should be done every 2 years. Just did mine & I'm about as mechanically minded as you. Just need a 2nd person to help you for a little while. _________________ TJ
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| timstar92404 wrote: | | I'm not sure yet if I'm keeping my 924 or possibly buying anohter 92n/a |
Keep it.
| timstar92404 wrote: | | i'm going to the mechanic again about my exhaust problem |
Good. If at first you don't succeed...
| timstar92404 wrote: | | I don't like the stock wheels and I really like the look with the shiny 928 wheels on the 924. |
You can get lots of nice wheels without going to a five-bolt/disc brake setup. Check this one out. I'm not saying that's what you want, just that it's possible to fit a large range of different wheels to the four-bolt/drum brake setup.
| timstar92404 wrote: | | is it something fairly easy to do or get a mechanic to do for you? |
ARE YOU KIDDING?! You don't even have jack stands!
| timstar92404 wrote: | | I mean is it just switching parts or do you need things costumized? |
Costumized, eh? I guess you could hang little Superman capes off the calipers...
| timstar92404 wrote: | | I don't really know anything about brakes so I don't think it would be a good idea to try it myself... |
The far-left pedal is the clutch. The middle one is the brake. The right-hand one is the accelerator...
| timstar92404 wrote: | | I don't know if my brakes have worn out but when I break from 60 mph it takes quite a while to come to a full stop." |
Press the middle pedal harder.
| timstar92404 wrote: | | I"m not even shure what exactly I need thatis the hardest part finding all the right parts. |
Not really. I've seen these parts come up more than once in the "For Sale" forum. As a package, no less...
| timstar92404 wrote: | | my drums probably need adjusting. and I can get my pads replaced. |
Damn near a certainty if you haven't done it since you got the car. Do it.
Sorry for taking the piss, mate (you make it sooo easy, I can't resist). But seriously, forget about the five-bolt/disc brake setup. Spend the money getting your car right mechanically first. You'll enjoy it so much more. _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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tj924

Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 957 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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LMAO!
Khal, you crack me up!
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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At the top of this page is:
| Quote: | 924Board.org
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If you click on search and enter your criteria "5 bolt"
you'll probably find a shit load of info that already been asked and answered.
This conversion requires some basic knowledge, jack and stands, a good set of tools and all the correct parts.
I've heard the castellated nut is a bitch to get off and a lot of topics on that too.
Have a read. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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teo

Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 637 Location: Hungary, Europe
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Ozzie wrote: | At the top of this page is:
| Quote: | 924Board.org
Discussion Forum of 924.org
FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups
Profile You have 1 new message Log out
924 FAQ (Technical) 924 Technical Section 924.org 924 Registry Live Chat
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Have a read. |
You too, "You have 1 new message"!  |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, c'mon Ozzie... you asked the question, too!
I've gotta add, although I took the piss, I do understand timstar92404's mindset. I've been there, done that (yeah, yeah, who hasn't ).
I bought my first car -one of those 20-year-old YOU-ROW-PEEN sporty things us young, car-struck kids love so much -a decade-and-a-bit ago.
I got it for a reasonable price, much like timstar92404. And it was a good car, much like timstar92404's.
I joined a forum much like this one and read all sorts of fancy things other blokes were doing to their cars; stuffing in bigger engines, hooking up turbo and superchargers, custom interior and exterior mods, carbonfibre panels, you name it... Even the old rear drum-to-disc conversion was a hot topic!
I had no mechanical knowledge, no tools, no money and no time. I'd neglect the basic maintenance for the aforementioned reasons.
I dumped a wad of cash on a sh*t-hot set of springs and dampers, racing style, just to lower it and get rid of the body roll. Meanwhile, it was running retreads on old 13-inch steel wheels *duh*! And the springs/dampers shot the rear camber to hell (actually improved the front camber, though). Wasted another bunch of cash on a sh*t-hot (at the time) CD player stereo. Meanwhile, I hadn't had the brakes properly serviced in two years and it never got a proper tune up
Eventually it started to run so bad I parked it up and it sat for a couple of years. I sold it for a couple of hundred bucks as spare parts What a waste!
My point is it was a good thing to start with. If I had even half a clue, I could've saved my money, taken it to a mechanic, had the basics serviced/replaced/refreshed and then kept up proper maintenance. I dare say I would've still had the car now.
That's what I'd like timstar92404 to understand... Forget about the "Too Fast, Too Furious" bullsh*t!
Save your money! Take it to a mechanic! Get it brought up to spec!
Sure, it might cost you a few thousand bucks (probably less, I'm guessing) but it's cheaper than a new car and you'll feel like you have a new car! A nice, sporty Porsche with heaps of street cred to boot!
Ah, bugger it. I'm getting old and this rant's gone on too long. You'll probably learn the hard way... like I did. _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, sure did.
Found the search button very helpful since.
However I have found Tim has asked a zillion questions in many posts without any research which is my point here.
I noticed the message when read the post then my email told me 2 minutes after I had read it. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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